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: Foundation Franklin Build
: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 05:47:04
I have decided to take the plunge and post my current project The tug Foundation Franklin. I first read Grey Seas Under by Farley Mowat while in middle school and thought what a great model the Franklin would make. Alas, there were no kits that a young lad of limited talents could cope with. Many years later while discussing the Franklin with an aquaintence in PA I was informed that there was a plan available from Taubman Plan Service now operated by Loyalhannah. The purchase was made and the plans arrived shortly thereafter. Not possessing the skills to build the hull I began casting about for someone who could handle that end of the project. I spent some time discussing the project with Ron Burchett and sent copies of the Taubman plans as well as a copy of the original ship construction plans from the museum in Greenwich, England. Unfortunately Ron was unable to take on the work so back to the drawing board. My PA friend told me about Karl at Microglass and the rest is history. with an excellent but rather large 1/32nd hull to start with I was on my way. Pictures from Karl's shop are below.
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 07:15:26
I placed an order with Harbor Models for a big, fat Pittman motor, prop shaft and log with oilite bushings and a 4 blade 4" prop. While I was waiting for those to arrive I cut out a section of the stern for the keel extension and rudder support. I also fabricated the prop surround from sheet brass and let that into the hull at the stern. The keel extension was drilled and through bolted to the hull with jam nuts and locktite to ensure that they did not back out. The inside of the stern was then sealed with body filler which also covered the keel bolts.
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 07:20:02
The rudder was made from sheet brass and brass rod and tubing. The rudder on the Franklin had an extension added to it before she was purchased by Foundation Maritime and this was included on the model with the straps that secure it to the original rudder blade. See picture in previous post.
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 07:26:46
This picture shows the stem iron attached to the hull. It extends above the deck level to the area where the bow bullwark will be added. This will help strengthen the bullwark when it is in place. Also, the rubbing strake can be seen in this picture. It is made from bass wood strips which were treated with a boating product called Git Rot. It is a WEST System type product which seals the wood against water. The angles which support the rubbing strake can be seen above and below the wood. These are Plastruct angles that are super glued to the hull. The anchor pockets are cut and roughed in as well.
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: tugs53 August 05, 2009, 08:04:37
Coming along real nice :) :) :)

Keep up the good work!!!

How was your service from Hbr Models?
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: Footski August 05, 2009, 08:17:22
I am really going to enjoy this build...The Foundation franklin is a beauty... :) :)
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 08:23:39
Thanks gentlemen. Just getting caught up to present now. I have been working on and mostly off for several years. Kinda left Karl at the alter after he made the hull for me. I have some more to add today and will post as milestones are reached.

Service from Harbor was great. Sent the stuff right away and easy to order from. Tried to order from Loyalhannah but had problems with the site so went to HM. That was several years ago though--sure to have changed by now. Stay tuned.
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 08:50:14
This pic shows the portholes added. What a pain to clamp a 5 foot hull to a drill press 26 times and make sure nothing moves. In the bow area the curve of the hull was such that it would not go in the drill press. The hand drill tended to 'walk' all about the shop so another fix was needed. I purchased 3 thick washers that had the proper inside diameter and soldered them together to make a jig. I clamped them in place and used it as a guide for the drill. Worked fairly well. The eyebrows over the portholes came from the local hardware store. I found them while looking for replacement faucet washers. When cut in half and sanded a little they worked well. The rubbing strake and the upper angle iron can also be seen in this photo.
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 08:52:40
Forgot to mention the doors for the ash shute in the middle of the picture. This was opened from inside by the line and ashes from the coal fired boilers were dumped over the side. While in heavy weather the ashes were piled in the alleyway because the doors couldn't be opened.
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 08:59:23
Deck beams added for the towing deck area in this pic. These are more for getting proper deck camber than strength. Cutting, sanding, checking, sanding, checking....
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 10:15:06
A little large for cereal boxes so I went with project cardboard for the towing deck template. About a dollar at the local art supply. I traced the deck outline from the plans and transferred to the cardboard. After cutting and several trimmings I had a good fit. The inside of the bullwarks have been filled with green squadron putty, sanded smooth and painted.
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: Model Tug Man August 05, 2009, 10:32:48
For those who are interested, below are pics of the Franklin when she arrived in Canada and the second pic is after she was modified at Halifax Shipyard. A striking difference to say the least--all business now.
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: sea.mariner August 05, 2009, 14:37:35
I have a feeling this is going to be a fantastic model  :) Really looking forward to seeing the progress  ;) ;)

Regards, Dan.
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: Model Tug Man August 06, 2009, 03:01:30
Thanks Dan. Always appreciate encouraging words.
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: tugs53 August 06, 2009, 21:50:52
You're a man of much talent there MTM!!

Please keep the pictures and info coming!! :) :) :)


...Cheers...
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: Model Tug Man August 07, 2009, 03:08:46
Thank you gentlemen for your support. Hope that all have an enjoyable weekend. As for me, I will be sanding my aft deck for a proper fit. Will probably have a fore arm like Popeye when all is done.
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: Model Tug Man August 17, 2009, 08:58:51
Was able to get the towing deck cut out and it is just sitting in the boat now. Have a few more detail parts to make for the hull then I can cut the wash ports and hawse holes. The original construction plans for HMS Frisky indicate doors on the wash ports and I am debating to install these on the model. A final bottom coat of Colonial Red satin finish and the water line can be scribed. I will go over the topsides with some 0000 steel wool and apply the satin black to the upper hull surfaces. Installation to the clear plastic porthole "glass" is next. Then it will be time to set some lead in her to get her down to her marks. Will use batteries for as much of the ballast as possible, however, the stuff going under the towing deck will probably have to be permanently mounted lead. Will need to purchase a FOGGY pretty soon.
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: tugs53 August 17, 2009, 21:46:10
Lookin' Real Fine!!!!!!!!!
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: Model Tug Man August 18, 2009, 03:11:11
Thanks Tugs.
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: Model Tug Man October 01, 2009, 03:58:27
I have actually been doing some work on the Franklin lately and will post some new pictures after I get the waterline marked and some paint on the topsides of the hull. Recently completed are the blocks that guide the lifeboats over the rubbing strake, framing for the anchor pocket openings, finally made a work stand (display stand to be done later) and am finishing up the wash ports. Have the cap rail to add and will get her in the water to determine how much lead needs to go under the towing deck. She is going to be a heavy girl!!!!! Watch this space.
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: Model Tug Man November 12, 2009, 04:37:43
So I felt that I was ready to paint my hull yesterday. The hawse pipes in the towing deck bullwarks are in after an abortive start. I was following the plan and things just didn't look right so I got out the pictures and the original plating diagram and guess what--way too big. The model construction plan has several deficiencies and I failed to note this one until I had 4 too large holes in the side. Time for some filling and sanding. The second round looks much better and closer to what is seen in the pictures. The wash ports are in and framed on the outside. I taped the waterline with black PVC electrician's tape which always gives a nice edge followed up with the usual blue masking tape and newspaper. To start with I flipped the hull upside down so I could get under the counter and rub rail easily. So far so good. After waiting the appropriate time I turned her over and had a go at the upper hull. Things were going well and I was finishing up when the nozzle clogged up and oh what a mess that made. So I will be sanding for some time in the future and spraying again before doing much else. I have attached two pictures, however, they don't show the paint problem very well. Until next time.....
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: tugs53 November 12, 2009, 07:26:06
 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(  don't ya just hate it when that happens >:(
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: Model Tug Man November 13, 2009, 05:51:50
So here I am all depressed about my paint problems and I remember another member talking about working on another part of his model when he got tired of his current focus. Since the radio shack is fairly small and should be an easy project I elected to follow his advice and build that while the messed up paint on my hull cures so that I can start sanding. I reviewed the plans and compared them to the pictures that are available. Don't want holes that are too big again. I also had a description of a small deck house in a book, A SHIP MODELMAKER'S MANUAL, and will incorporate some details from that in my radio shack.
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: Model Tug Man November 13, 2009, 06:05:53
Measured and cut the 4 sides, 2 long and 2 short, and some good old Plastruct angle to gussett the inside. Then started gluing. Prefer the Testers plastic glue for this as it makes a very strong joint. My angle jig was perfect for holding the parts in place until the glue set up.
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: Model Tug Man November 13, 2009, 06:32:13
Here are the sides all glued together and awaiting the roof. I will cut a plastic sub-deck and lay wood strips over that. The portholes and door will follow. Also, here are some shots of the Franklin for reference.
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: Model Tug Man November 13, 2009, 06:40:05
Had some trouble posting so the pics are a little mixed up--but here are the last ones.
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: Franklin November 17, 2009, 14:35:43
TM, You are doing an excellent Job!!!!!.

Looking forward to seeing her completed.


Lee
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: Model Tug Man November 18, 2009, 04:26:24
Ahhh, So you are still here. Great to hear from you and thanks for your kind words. I was just showing a picture of your forward winch and deck to a friend who is going to cut some planking for me. He was quite impressed with your work. How are you doing and how is your Franklin?

What a great way to start the day off.
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: Franklin November 18, 2009, 15:39:05
TM, I haven't touched the Tug for a few months, but will have to start again with winter coming.

It's a lot less work watching you build!!!


Lee
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: Model Tug Man November 19, 2009, 04:19:50
You can watch me sand the botched up black paint off my hull--clogged nozzle in the sprayer. Oh well. Keeps me off the street and out of trouble. Off the street anyway. Hope you start a build thread when you pick it up again. It would be good to compare notes.

By the way--how do you access the forward part of your interrior? I am thinking of making the upper deck removable but will have to deal with the rigging however it is done.

TM
: Foundation Franklin Build - Forward Interior Access
: Franklin November 20, 2009, 14:26:13
Hello TM, The only access to the Tugs interior forward of the bridge is through the forward hold Hatch Cover. The opening is about 2 1/2" by 3". To add ballast through the Hatch i have Zip lock bags filled with Lead Shot that i lower to the hull bottom.They seem to stay put in rough weather as the bags settle nicely between the frames. In building the tug i wanted to keep her water tight so as a result the only deck access  to the interior is the forward hatch, Engineroom skylight Hatch, rear Salvage Hold.I made the prop shaft as short as possible so that the motor is located directly below the rear Salvage Hatch opening.Battery access is through the Engine Room Skylight.
I also made the grating removable to have access to the steering gear.
All hatches are mounted on comings about 1/4" above deck level to prevent water from coming in.

Talk to you soon

Lee
: Franklin Deck access layout
: Franklin November 21, 2009, 07:25:51
TM, Have attached a few photos to give you a ldea how i have access to the interior.


Lee
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: Model Tug Man November 23, 2009, 09:25:26
Thanks Lee. I remember the pics you sent of the engine room skylight you made--really nice. I would like to have more room to work on the inside if possible. I was considering getting a Foggy and plumbing it for both smokestacks so that will require more access than the hatches, etc will allow. Was thinking of being able to pull the entire upper deck. Dealing with the rigging is what is giving me heartburn. I had a suggestion from a friend that I should use elastic thread and that may be a good way to disconnect things but keep them tensioned while in place. Once I get the paint mess cleaned up and get her re-sprayed I will get her in the water and see just how much lead it is going to take to set her on her marks. I will probably mount the lead in her stern permanently under the towing deck with a couple of batteries in front of the motor. Let the sanding begin.
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: Sudbury II November 23, 2009, 09:52:09
Nice clean work there Lee!! :) :)

Suds
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: Model Tug Man December 02, 2009, 04:23:44
Have actually been doing a little work although you wouldn't know it from my posts. I have an arm like Popeye after sanding my hull and still have more to do. Almost there then I can tape the waterline and try it again.

I have been doing a little work on the radio shack and it is coming along nicely. A friend had some oak and walnut laying around and he ripped some planks for my model which look great by the way. The portholes are in and the door frame is complete. I will add a handrail and a light in the near future.
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: Model Tug Man December 02, 2009, 04:51:20
A few more of the radio shack.
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: Model Tug Man December 02, 2009, 04:54:25
Last ones.
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: Franklin December 02, 2009, 14:56:41
Your doing a fine job TM!!, The "bolts" on the Port light look really authentic.

Lee
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: Footski December 02, 2009, 23:06:22
She is coming along beautifully.. :) :)
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: sea.mariner December 03, 2009, 03:48:21
Geat work there MTM  :) Are you confident about trying to spray again ? Did you workout how the spray gun got blocked and how to prevent it for the next attempt ?

Looking forward to seeing the results after the re-spray  :)

Regards, Dan.
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: Model Tug Man December 03, 2009, 04:42:10
Thanks gentlemen. You guys are alwasy so encouraging in your comments. It is appreciated.

Dan,

I have not finished sanding--yet. I thought of your rebuild project when I took the picture of the hull a few days ago. I think I will try a spray can and set up better lights so I don't keep spraying if jsomething goes wrong. Maybe a trip to the eye doctor for some new specs is in order as well.

Finished planking the radio shack roof last night and will be adding the hand rails and maybe a light by the door. There are no lights indicated on any of the plans, either model build, reconstruction or original and the photos I have are too distant to make out that level of detail. I may take some artistic license and place some deck lights by the doors on the main deck level of the bridge, the alley ways and the radio shack--decisions, decisions.
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: sea.mariner December 03, 2009, 05:03:29
I think I will try a spray can

I am sure you are aware that you will need to match the original type of paint to the one in a spray can, I learnt that the hardway when I built a pilot boat, I used one type of primer and a different type of gloss, well, what a reaction there was on the hull, bubbles, more bubbles and then the mixed paints started to eat into the abs hull  :(

It can workout more expensive using spray cans but there is no hassle of cleaning the spray gun etc  :) Over here in the UK, most of my spray paint comes from a car repair shop, £5 for a 500ml spray can, I think now I have nearly the entire range of colours they do, but the good thing is, no matter how small the part to be sprayed is, just shake the can for a few minutes then you are good to go  :) :)

Regards, Dan.
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: Model Tug Man December 03, 2009, 06:32:52
Good advice, Dan. It was just a run of the mill enamel which I should be able to pick up at Home Depot or the like. I used a satin/semi gloss finish which dulls down a little as time passes.
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: tugs53 December 03, 2009, 07:24:01
Looking mighty fine there MTM :) :) :)

The past couple of years..I've grown fond of 'Tremclad' Red Oxide Primer for below the waterline, and Krylon 'fast dry' spray can paints for the rest.

Dry in about 15mins...and real good quality.

I find Krylon's Red Primer...a bit too 'brown' for anti-fouling.
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: Model Tug Man December 03, 2009, 08:28:10
Thanks Tugs. I will check that out. I have been using a Colonial Red for below the waterline and it seems to do the job well.
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: tugs53 December 03, 2009, 20:25:54
As a 'foot-note'...I spray a coat of Krylon 'Clear-Matt' on the bottom...over top of the Tremclad Primer Red!!

Works like a charm!!!


...Cheers...
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: Model Tug Man December 09, 2009, 04:49:44
Have done a little, and I mean a little, bit of work on the radio shack. The railings are just some brass wire bent in the appropriate places and painted. The planking on the roof is complete. I decided to place a light by the door and ended up cutting the end from a brass tube and fastening it to a Grain of Wheat light bulb used in model railroading. The wire was formed to the curve I wanted and then filled and painted. I will use a 9V battery for these lights to give them a softer glow. I am going to add two life rings to the after end of the structure. The direction finder will be started shortly and the insulator for the antenna wire will be added soon as well. I plan on detailing the door a little more as soon as my new saw arrives.

Sanding the hull continues, although with little enthusiasm. Building the radio shack is much more fun and rewarding.

The pictures show the port, starboard and forward sides of the structure with the last photo taken in the dark at Dan's house. ;D ;D :o :o

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: sea.mariner December 09, 2009, 05:49:39
with the last photo taken in the dark at Dan's house.

 ;D ;D ;D Its not so dark now at night, SHE has put up an 8 foot Christmas tree with 450 lights on it  >:( >:( >:(

Regards, Dan.

ps, its a great looking radio shack  :) The light looks great, when are you going to get the hull resprayed ?
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: Model Tug Man December 09, 2009, 07:04:52
Footski apparently has a fat wallet and may be able to help you with your electric bill (450 lights???)

I may be able to spray this weekend. We have had some server problems here at work and my daughther is buying her first house so my time is in great demand.

I want to get the hull in the water and get the lead bedded in her stern before it gets much colder. It will be like ice fishing if I wait much longer.

Any cats under the tree? ;)
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: Footski December 09, 2009, 09:20:44
Footski apparently has a fat wallet and may be able to help you with your electric bill (450 lights???)

I may be able to spray this weekend. We have had some server problems here at work and my daughther is buying her first house so my time is in great demand.

I want to get the hull in the water and get the lead bedded in her stern before it gets much colder. It will be like ice fishing if I wait much longer.

Any cats under the tree? ;)

Now as it is Christmas time and our birthday, I am not issuing yellow cards.........TODAY!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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: Model Tug Man December 09, 2009, 09:24:00
Much appreciated good sir. We will be minding our Ps and Qs more closely in the future.
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: Model Tug Man December 11, 2009, 05:19:04
Finally finished sanding the hull the other night. She is masked off--again and ready for paint. It was necessary to repair some minor damage which occurred while sanding close to some of the finer detail parts. She has been wiped down with a damp cloth and then a tac cloth. I will give the shop a good going over with the ship vac and wipe the table down. Should be able to get a coat or two on her over the weekend. Fingers crossed and a new batch of paint.
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: Model Tug Man December 14, 2009, 08:52:03
I currently have the hull inverted so I can get good access to the area beneath the rub rail. She has a considerable overhang especially in the after sections. I gave her three coats this weekend and, knock wood, it came out ok. I will jturn her over tonight and have a go above the rub rail and see how that turns out. I will post some pics when all is complete. :-\ :-\
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: Model Tug Man December 17, 2009, 11:07:57
The sanding and repainting are finally done--yay. Pictures posted below are:
an overall port side view
the prop, rudder and keel extension
the washports and hawse pipes

It is going to be cold this weekend, however, I am going to try to get her down to the lake to check the ballast requirements.
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: Model Tug Man December 17, 2009, 11:18:23
These shots are of the anchor pocket and the ash door.
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: Model Tug Man December 17, 2009, 11:20:42
In a hurry again--this time with the pics.
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: tugs53 December 17, 2009, 12:08:35
Sure looking good :) :) :) :)


...Cheers...
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: Model Tug Man December 17, 2009, 12:11:48
Thanks Tugs.
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: tugnut December 17, 2009, 12:50:50
Looking good,  very neet work  :)


 Regrds John
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: ARH December 17, 2009, 15:31:43
Hi MTM, It may not be noticed by many, by the boat chocks down the side of the hull are to close together, they should span nearly 3 port holes, the build is looking good, I always look forward to your up dates.   :) :) :)
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: Franklin December 17, 2009, 16:09:40
Hello TM, You certainly got an excellent finish on the hull.

My favorite photo is the Wireless Shack with the light!!!

Just courious what will be your Prop RPM will be at full thottle?
I am using a Dumas Motor at 5000 RPM geared 5 to 1  to the Prop, & i think under load in the water its about 800 or 900 RPM. I think if i were using ratio 4 to 1 i would get much better performance.
I have a Dumas 4" Dia Prop with 4" pitch.
A better idea may be to use a prop with a larger Dia and maybe more pitch.
She runs along OK but to get a realistic wake she has to be run pretty much full out.
Lee
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: Model Tug Man December 18, 2009, 05:06:00
Thanks Ron. I looked at the plan and noticed a difference from what I had been seeing in my reference photos so I decided to go with the photos. I have attached a few below.
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: Model Tug Man December 18, 2009, 07:42:47
Thanks for all the encouraging responses guys. Feed back is always appreciated.

Lee,

I will check the RPM rating of the motor and let you know. It was installed several years ago. The prop is a 4 blade 4" and the set up was discussed with Karl, who made the hull, and Harbor Models. I have a smaller 12V Dumas Pittman direct driving a 3 blade 3" prop in my 54" ATA tug and it does very well. It has plenty of pulling power and runs at a good scale speed without having to go full throttle. The Franklin is the same scale, 1/32nd, but she is 6 " longer and a little slimmer than the ATA.

Again, thanks for everyone's support and feed back.

TM
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: Model Tug Man December 22, 2009, 11:58:53
I was unable to get the hull in the water this weekend due to the snow and the lake being frozen. Maybe next weekend. Will be having a go at the towing deck in the mean time--installing the aft end of the coaling trunk, the alleyways and the aft end of the P/S cabins. I can also get going on the steering chain covers in the corners of the towing deck where it transitions to the boat deck level. Will post pics when available. Happy Holidays everyone.
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: Model Tug Man December 23, 2009, 09:54:56
Lee,

I was looking around the forum and again ran across your Franklin build thread from long ago in Ocean tugs. Have you done any more detailing on her lately. She was sure looking good in your last pictures.

TM
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: Franklin December 28, 2009, 15:07:50
TM, I haven't time to work on her for a while but was out in the garage today getting ready to start again.

I plan to build the Ventilators next.

Your Tug is looking Excellent.

Have a Great New Year!!!!


Lee
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: Model Tug Man December 29, 2009, 04:34:54
Thanks Lee. I am looking forward to the resumption of your build. It will be fun to compare notes as things progress. I was going to put my Franklin in the water last weekend but after 2 days of 50 degree weather and rain the lake was still frozen--just not fair. :( :( :( I am going to have to proceed with building without having the towing deck and ballast installed. I will have a couple of pics in a day or 2. Hope you have a happy and prosperous and oh yeah healthy New Year.


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: sea.mariner December 30, 2009, 12:28:34
Model Tug Man, I have just seen the photos of the respray, must have missed them when you posted them, you have done a really good job of re-spraying her  :)

Do you want to come over to Aberdeen to finish spraying my Yorkshireman  ;D ;D

Great work and progress  :)

All the Best for the New Year,

Regards, Dan.

ps, keep the photos and info coming on the forum
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: Model Tug Man December 30, 2009, 12:45:55
Best wishes to you, Dan. Will have to decline the invitation though. Too Bl***y cold up there for me.
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: Model Tug Man January 04, 2010, 04:47:23
Since the lake is still frozen--even more so now with temps in the 20s and low 30s (F)--I decided to spend some time on the towing deck detail. Even though it will not be fastened in place until the ballast is set. I elected to try a little more detailing in the forward end of the deck where the cabins, coaling trunk and boiler casing are. I had to cut a longer deck to accomodate the extended alleyways which can be seen on either side of the attached photo. Once I finish trimming the top and bottom for the camber I will apply some paint and get the bulkheads glued in. Everything is just sitting in place in the pic. There will be a door on the cabin walls (outboard) and a light on the side of the boiler casing (inboard). There will be another piece of plastic sheet cut to fit across the forward end of the alleyways and sprayed flat black to give the appearance of the alleyway continuing forward. This should also help firm things up a little.

I have also started on the direction finder which resides on top of the radio shack. I had some plastruct material that I used, however, it looks a little on the chunky side. In reviewing the photos the actual unit seems to be made of lighter materials than the drawings indicate. So, while good practice this will be set aside in favor of something more in keeping with the pictures of the real thing. I am still awaiting delivery of my mini table saw from Harbor Freight. It has only been two months now. It would be really useful in building the DF unit.   

TM
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: Model Tug Man February 12, 2010, 10:32:49
The Harbor Freight saw seems to be on perpetual back order so I purchased one from Amazon. It has a nice high speed but not much power. Anyway it cuts the small stuff I need to work with.

Also, It has snowed in the DC area twice this week and I have been quite busy with my snow blower. I did manage to get a little work done on the boat, however. The second picture was taken after the first snow. I know you guys up north think this is BS but we are not equipped to handle this down here. I know, wah, wah.
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: Model Tug Man February 12, 2010, 10:44:23
So on to the boat. I have cut and installed a small plywood shelf over the prop shaft to hold the ballast in the stern. I have carved a wax plug and will follow advice and making a plaster casting from Puffin and Neil. Hope it is ok to do this inside since the snow is up past my butt.

I have also finished making the hawse pipes in the after bullwarks and have the cap rail in place. The cap rail needs a little truing up but isn't bad. You can also see the access holes in the towing deck where the engine room skylight and salvage hatch are located.
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: Model Tug Man February 12, 2010, 10:58:01
I still need to frame in the washports but will wait until the deck is fastened. That will be done after the servo linkage to the rudder is in place--maybe next week.

In these pictures the rudder quadrant housing is taking shape. This was constructed using the same method as the radio shack and will be entirely clad with walnut. Still need to do the top and the doors. Maybe next week. I have researched this structure as thoroughly as possible and determined that the center is a raised housing with flat roof, sides and front. If you look closely at the attached picture of the Frisky you can see it just below the after towing span. This is also visible in the picture of Franklin alongside of an Empire ship elsewhere in the Forum.

I have had a lot of trouble with the plans which seem to give different measurement results depending whether the measurement is made from the center line or the sides of the hull. Had to re-do work a few times. Really checking things thoroughly now before cutting anything.
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: tugs53 February 12, 2010, 18:05:50
Looking might fine there MTM :) :) 8) 8)
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: Footski February 13, 2010, 00:48:48
She sure is looking great, but as for that snow......Oh my no!!!! ;D ;D
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: sjoormen February 13, 2010, 02:55:03
Beautiful work, I realy enjoy looking your photos.
As for snow I like showel better it keeps me warm >:D.
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: Model Tug Man February 16, 2010, 04:20:52
Thanks for the kind words gentlemen. Barry, I would be happy to ship some snow to you if you are feeling deprived. :D

Did a little more work this past weekend. The quadrant housing is coming along ok. I have some hinges for the doors that I will try to get installed tonight as well as the last of the planking on the top. I decided to toss the one piece teak door I cut for the radio shack and stick built a door from walnut so it will match the other wooden structures. Hardware to follow. This door will be duplicated on the wheelhouse in several places. The area for the timber cladding on the towing deck has been marked out and this will be installed after the deck is secured. TTFN.
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: Model Tug Man February 16, 2010, 04:36:56
The picture on this book cover is a fairly accurate depiction of the rudder quadrant housing according to my research.
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: Model Tug Man February 22, 2010, 05:15:51
Finished the quadrant housing this weekend and installed the rudder servo and linkage. I was disapointed with the thro on the rudder so I am making an extension for the servo arm to act as a longer lever in hopes of getting more rudder travel.
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: Sudbury II February 22, 2010, 08:15:30
Now that's really beautiful work :) :) :) :)...well done MTM!!!!!!!!!!!


Suds
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: Model Tug Man February 22, 2010, 08:57:15
Thanks Suds. When all is said and done I plan on using a low gloss or matt varnish on the wood. I have quarter sawn white oak for the decks. Can't wait to get started with that.
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: Franklin February 23, 2010, 17:10:30
Finished the quadrant housing this weekend and installed the rudder servo and linkage. I was disapointed with the thro on the rudder so I am making an extension for the servo arm to act as a longer lever in hopes of getting more rudder travel.

Hello TM, I had the same issue with limited travel so i made the rudder quadrant shorter (Distance from center of the rudder stock to the linkage hole is 3/4").

I get about 40 degrees rudder angle.Even with this angle she still has a large turning radius.

Lee
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: Model Tug Man February 24, 2010, 08:08:53
Thanks for the info, Lee. Good to hear from you. I think that I will extend the servo arm with a piece of styrene and drill another hole in the rudder arm closer to the center as you suggest. Hopefully it will work like an overdrive but will have sufficient power. She is a big and heavy boat so I am not expecting sports car performance. Hopefully it will be reasonable.
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: tugs53 February 24, 2010, 19:00:07
Not in keeping with scale....but if you add a couple of 'angle Iron' pieces to the trailing edges of the rudder..you'll notice a huge improvement in handling.

I learn't this from forum member Puffin ;) ;)
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: Model Tug Man February 25, 2010, 04:58:35
Thanks Tugs. Certainly something to consider if performance is found to be lacking when she hits the water. Do you have a photo or drawing of how it is installed?
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: Model Tug Man March 02, 2010, 07:23:53
I have extended the steering servo arm and it seems to have done the trick. Will wait and see how she dows in the water. May have to use Tugs' trick if things don't work out.

I am ready to fasten the after deck in place and some members were kind enough to recommend some different methods for this. I have been using Super Glue for plastic to wood joints but need more set time to make adjustments and get the weights and clamps in place. The most convenient method that I can find locally is Plastic Welder. This is carried by the local hardware store but, as luck would have it, they have been sold out. They promised to have it restocked by tomorrow and I will be stopping by after work to procure a tube or two.

Once the after deck is in place I can proceed with setting the after end of the coaling trunk and port and starboard cabin bulkheads. This will allow painting of the deck and the bulkheads to be completed. I will also install the deck to bullwark angle iron and the angle iron that borders the deck cladding around the after hatch. The after hatch and engine room casing will then be up for building.

I have cut out and dry fitted the sub deck for the boat deck. This will be covered in quarter sawn white oak strips and painted where the iron deck is visible (around the funnels, winches, etc). I am planning to make this removable for interior access. I hope the wood strips will stiffen it up a little since it is quite floppy as it is. I plan to use some of the plastic welder to fasten some stiffeners to the under side which will also help retain camber and shear.
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: Model Tug Man March 02, 2010, 07:35:41
By the way--I forgot to mention that I sent a picture of the rudder quadrant housing to my friend Karl who built the hull for me. Karl was quite impressed with the work and said that it looked like an outhouse for midgets. What a guy. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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: Model Tug Man March 04, 2010, 05:04:40
Went back to the hardware store after work yesterday and the Plastic Weld had arrived as promised. Bought two just to make sure I had enough. I know that I should surrender my guy card for this but, I then read the directions. Please don't tell SWMBO. I tested the glue on a bit of plastic and wood that was laying around the shop and it worked extremely well. By the way--that stuff really stinks. I roughed up the plastic surface and cleaned everything up. Got my clamps and plenty of lead out to have available when the deck was in place. The picture tells the rest of the story. With this done the door is open for many other jobs that are pending in this area. Watch this space.
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: sea.mariner March 04, 2010, 14:48:53
Hi MTM, could you post a photo of the tub or tube of the Plastic Weld that you are referring to please, I have tried various different brands of so called Plastic Weld (each one is spelt differently) over here and got a varying array of results.

Also, what was the approx temptreature of your workshop when using this stuff, as obviously temp makes alot of difference to the curing time / effect.

Great work and I AM WATCHING THIS SPACE  ;)

Regards, Dan.
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: Model Tug Man March 05, 2010, 04:42:59
Thanks, Dan.

It is Plastic Welder and comes in a two part syringe. I will not be able to get you a pic until Monday but will post then. The temp was about 70 degrees F and dry. I test glued a piece of styrene on the end of a 2x4 scrap and I was not able to remove it by hand. If you use this stuff MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ADEQUATE VENTALATION!!! And boy does this stuff stink.
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: Model Tug Man March 08, 2010, 06:54:06
Dan,

Here is the picture you requested--great stuff.
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: sea.mariner March 08, 2010, 08:09:51
Cheers MTM, the mighty DEVCON from past experience this is a really good product,

Regards, Dan.
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: Model Tug Man March 15, 2010, 03:34:35
A little progress has been made in recent days. I have installed the angle bracing for the bullwarks and where the deck cladding is to be installed. Next to the bullwark angle is a strip laid on the deck where the steering chain goes. There is a picture below showing this on a 1:1 tug. I believe it is there to prevent wear on the deck. Was able to get some paint down on the iron deck areas.
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: Model Tug Man March 15, 2010, 04:01:46
The aft ends of the coaling trunk and cabins are now permanently installed. I sealed off the inner ends of the alleyways with styrene sheet that was painted flat black to provide some depth of vision and help impede water to the inside of the boat. I will be adding a couple of lights to the aft end of the alleyways which will resemble the one on the radio shack. I have started the deck cladding but will have to get the hatch completed before I can go any further. The hatch coaming is started and I have attached some pics of a few 1:1 examples that I am considering. There is not much detail of the hatches on the Franklin and the plans are questionable.
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: Model Tug Man March 15, 2010, 04:11:33
Here are a few more 1:1 hatch pictures I am using for reference.

I was looking on line for Franklin information and came across a reference to an article about a modeler who built a model of the Franklin many years ago. I emailed the journalist and she was kind enough to forward my contact information to the modeler, Jerry Guenther. Jerry contacted me and we have shared information about our shared modeling subject. He sent me copies of some plans of another British tug of the same era which contains considerable detail that is not evident on the plans that I have. This will enable me to include much more detail in my model and I am greatful to Jerry for his assistance. A pic of one of the plans he sent is also attached.
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: Model Tug Man April 05, 2010, 03:20:02
It has been a while since I have posted anything here, however, I have continued work on the after salvage hold hatch. It is generally constructed of styrene sheet and Evergreen strips and "L" angles. The ring bolts are brass wire painted black. I have cut and drilled the hatch boards and they are awaiting the lifting bars to be placed before they are permanently fastened to the hatch top. The top will be removable for inside access while the coaming will be fastened in place. Since there are so many of the boards and they are the same size I clamped a stop in my trusty Xacto mitre box which made mass production much easier. To drill the recesses under the lifting bars I made a jig out of scrap plastic and clamped it to my drill press. Can never have too many clamps. I then set the depth gauge and was drilling little divots with wild abandon. Another nod towards mass production.
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: Model Tug Man April 05, 2010, 04:15:31
Here is the actual hatch with the oak deck planking cut out to fit around the bracing. What fun that was. I can't wait to do it again on the forward hatch. :-\

While I was working on the hatch, which had many repetative parts to make, I decided to work on the capstan for a little relief. It is generaly made of styrene sheet and Evergreen strips. The drum was turned from an appropriately sized dowel. The brass cap on the drum was found at the local craft shop. Rivets are large pin heads which worked well.

Once the hatch boards are finished and permanently fitted I will affix the coaming to the deck and begin the planking. Until next time.
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: Model Tug Man April 05, 2010, 04:18:19
Another try with the hatch pic.
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: Footski April 05, 2010, 06:26:12
I like it.....great work.. :) :)
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: Model Tug Man April 05, 2010, 08:14:48
Thanks Barry. Always appreciate feed back.
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: tugs53 April 05, 2010, 08:25:36
Very impressive work :) :) :) :)

Keep the photos coming!!
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: Model Tug Man April 05, 2010, 08:41:59
Here is the only legible photo I have of Franklin's towing deck. As you can see by the circled area very little of the hatch is visible. Armed with this information and some period photos the hatch in the photo above was created. A little artistic license I guess.
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: Model Tug Man April 05, 2010, 08:43:12
Thanks Tugs. Much appreciated.
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: Model Tug Man April 06, 2010, 03:27:53
Did a little more work last night. Looking forward to having this part done so that I can start planking the deck. Learned a lot while doing it so the forward hatch should go a little easier.
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: Model Tug Man April 09, 2010, 03:51:36
Have completed the hatch, finally--whew. There are 139 pieces in there and I am glad that is over. Started with the deck cladding last night. I have never done this before and if anyone sees any glaring problems please bring them to my attention. I need to lay out the placement of the bollards before I get carried away with laying the planks.
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: Footski April 09, 2010, 05:28:56
That is a beautiful piece of work and worth all the effort you put in... :) :)
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: Model Tug Man April 09, 2010, 05:35:57
Thanks Barry.
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: Model Tug Man April 14, 2010, 03:44:23
Have been working on the deck cladding lately. The wood is white oak provided by a friend. The strips are cut to length and marked on 3 sides with a black sharpie for the joints. They are then Superglued in place on the styrene sub deck. It is very tedious shaping the planks where the margin plank is curved. Lots of sanding and test fitting here. I gave it a quick brushing with lemon oil and will coat it with satin varnish when complete.
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: model tugman April 14, 2010, 05:46:10
Lovely finish to that deckwork young man. :) :)
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: Model Tug Man April 14, 2010, 06:43:46
Thank you sir. Just hope the varnish turns out ok.
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: Model Tug Man April 20, 2010, 03:49:12
Finished the deck cladding over the wekend and got started on the engine room casing. Purchased a 5 channel radio and have a Foggy on order from MMB (thanks for the great service Mark) and some electronics from Action Electronics, ESC, steam whistle and electronic switch (Dave, thanks as well for your fast response). Now if shipping from Europe resumes in the next decade they may reach the US. What a time for a volcano.
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: john-boy April 20, 2010, 04:34:21
MTM,

looking good, great work, watching with interest.

John  :) :) :)
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: Model Tug Man April 20, 2010, 04:43:53
Thanks John.
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: tugs53 April 20, 2010, 06:21:30
Very nice work MTM :) :) :) :)

Shipping from the UK has been quite fast for me lately!!

...Cheers...
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: Model Tug Man April 20, 2010, 08:57:38
Very nice work MTM :) :) :) :)

Shipping from the UK has been quite fast for me lately!!

...Cheers...

Thanks Mike. Was your shipping completed before the volcano erupted?
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: tugs53 April 20, 2010, 11:30:16
Hmmmmm...never thought of that....
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: Model Tug Man April 30, 2010, 11:47:02
The Foggy from MMB and the electronics from Action arrived two days ago. Thank you gentlemen for the wonderful service. All I have to do now is put it all together with the 5 channel radio I purchased and get some batteries and.... So it looks like it will be a while before this project is finished. I plan on laying things out on cardboard templates to test placement in the hull. I figure 4 batteries will provide plenty of power and reduce the amount of lead ballast necessary to bring her to her marks. A nice custom wiring harness should provide 24V power to the Foggy and plenty of 12V input to the power distribution panel I purchased from Harbor Models when I purchased the motor, prop and shaft. I will post some pics when I have had some time to play a little. SWMBO has her list out and there is no rest for MTM. police police police
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: tugnut April 30, 2010, 11:53:42
great deck work MTM  :) :)
 JOHN B
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: tugs53 April 30, 2010, 20:43:33
Keep up the good work Travis!!!!
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: Footski April 30, 2010, 21:56:15
Beautiful and don't forget, lots of pictures of the internal layout as you go along.. :) :) :)

Barry
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: Model Tug Man May 03, 2010, 03:50:49
Thank you, Gentlemen. I set the foggy in the hull, between tasks for SWMBO, and it looked kind of lonely down there all by itself. I am going to build a nice tray for the electronics and probably distribute the batteries around for ballast. I will have some pics later this week.
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: Model Tug Man May 10, 2010, 04:06:48
Have a little progress to report. I have a pic of the Foggy and Action electronics sitting in the bottom looking lonely from my last post. Have been working on the engine room casing--lots of little boxes made from styrene sheet--not much fun. The casing I am building varies considerably from the plan in that the companionway to the engineroom is not integral to the casing itself but attached to the after end and has a curved top. The skylight area is not as high as the plan and is not flat on the top. Also, it has 4 hatches instead of the 5 on the drawing. The hatches in the skylight have single ports instead of having 2 as drawn. These departures were made after looking into the pictures of the tug, paintings and drawings from the book. See the Towing Deck pic earlier in this thread. I am looking forward to building the winch which should be a welcome change from plastic boxes. I understand that old alarm clocks are a good source for gears--is this true?
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: Model Tug Man May 10, 2010, 04:10:02
One last pic.
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: Footski May 10, 2010, 05:52:09
She is going to be a BIG and beautiful model. I just love it.. :) :) :) :)
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: Model Tug Man May 10, 2010, 08:24:11
Thanks Footski. Big is right. Lots of removable ballast!!!!!!!
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: tugs53 May 10, 2010, 12:13:26
What Barry said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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: Model Tug Man May 11, 2010, 03:47:52
Thanks Mike.
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: Model Tug Man June 04, 2010, 06:30:19
Have not been able to devote much time to my Franklin project lately. SWMBO and the kids have taken up much of what little has been available.

Have been working on the engine room casing some more, more sanding and filling. The sky light hatches are in with hinges installed. They are awaiting the port openings which will go in soon. The companion way door is installed and will get the dogs installed as well. The beginnings of the towing hook mounting is in place and I will anchor the hook for towing purposes.

What is a good source of gears for winches? I have heard that old alarm clocks have much to offer, is this true? I have to start the towing winch which is why I am asking. There is a derrick winch incorporated into the towing winch but I don't have much in the way of drawings for this. Does anyone have anything for a multipurpose winch of this sort? I appreciate any help anyone can provide.

Cheers,

TM
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: Model Tug Man June 17, 2010, 03:34:48
I have been working on the towing/cargo winch for a change of pace. I found the remains of an old Graupner winch kit in my junk box and started cutting and adding here and there. In the end it may have been easier to start from scratch. I am attaching a picture of the winch as sold and then the modified one sitting on the engine room casing but not secured yet. Sorry that the pics are not better. I was in a bit of a rush this AM.
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: Model Tug Man June 17, 2010, 03:44:18
Here are a couple of pictures I used as examples. I will be adding the steam valves, winch brakes and control handles after the casing is done and the winch permanently installed.
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: sea.mariner June 17, 2010, 13:42:57
Well MTM, what can I say ..... Since I last looked through this thread (just before moving house in April) you have really done well with you build, I have picked up a good few tips from you and looking forward to getting more  :)

She is looking stunning, excellent craftmanship (as always  ;)) and any ideas on the completion date  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Regards, Dan.
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: tugs53 June 17, 2010, 17:26:02
Nice job on the winch MTM!!

Really looks the part.
It's always fun to create stuff using spare parts and such.
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: Model Tug Man June 18, 2010, 03:18:40
Thank you for your kind words, gentlemen.

A completion date? Star date 2153.7--who knows. Even when we finish our projects we tinker with them incessantly. I have so much to do on the model and SWMBO has so many projects. Maybe by next year. I am thoroughly enjoying this and am looking forward to rebuilding my ATA and a couple of smaller projects when the Franklin is done. Hopefully things will progress a little faster.
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: Model Tug Man July 15, 2010, 03:41:40
Well--finally some of my work came together so that I have something to post:

The engine room caseing is about done. The port rings on the hatches are metal washers and the remainder is plastic of one sort or another. Mostly styrene. I made the companionway different from the plan due to what I found in a picture of Franklin's towing deck that can be found earlier in this thread. The top is definately curved and not flat as shown in the plan. Also there are 4 and not 5 hatches as shown in the plan. I placed some steps on the sides forward since it seems logical that someone would want to be able to get to the hook and winch from the after deck. The hook is a modified graupner model and seems to be fairly accurate from what can be seen in the picture mentioned above. I have added some details to the winch in the way of control and brake handles. I still have to decide how I want to color the towing cable. White cotton is certainly not the proper shade. If you look in the background you can see the steering chains laid out with the rollers in place. The rollers are road wheels kit bashed from a tank model. They are almost an exact match for one I found on the internet. The chain covers are in the corners of the deck house and the vertical rollers are projecting from the bottom. I have also added a couple of details to the capstan in way of a steam pipe and valve. Also, a control lever and guard. The curtain plate has been installed on the after deck edge and I will be making the ladder to the boat deck from the ER casing soon. Still have to secure the steering chains and do some touch up--painting chain is a pain. I have cut the after mast and started tapering it to the proper size. This gives the model the third dimension and she is a big girl.
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: Model Tug Man July 15, 2010, 04:07:29
Here is the capstan and the reference pic for the steering chain roller--from ST Denys.
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: Model Tug Man July 16, 2010, 03:24:07
Here are a few shots of the steering chains and rollers. It is difficult to get a clear picture that is close enough to see the detail of the rollers. The macro is not helping much.
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: Model Tug Man July 16, 2010, 03:27:35
Two more.
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: Sudbury II July 16, 2010, 06:58:48
Exceptional work there MTM!!!

Suds
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: Model Tug Man July 16, 2010, 09:18:14
Thanks Suds. Not getting much done but try to make it of reasonable quality.  
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: Model Tug Man August 10, 2010, 03:41:20
I have been purchasing some detail parts from The Model Dockyard recently. The quality is good and the service is excellent. I did a little cleanup, surgery and painting on a couple of metal Hall anchors with good result. Just need to seal the holes and do a little touch up and that is done.
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: Model Tug Man August 10, 2010, 03:43:12
And here they are installed.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: Model Tug Man August 10, 2010, 03:47:24
I also purchased some metal bollards at the same time. After a little cleanup with a file and a spot of paint they came out rather well. I have two of them in with the wood trim installed. There is another one that will be mounted a little forward on the steel deck and the others on the port side. There are 4 more to go on the bow at the appropriate time.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: oldiron August 10, 2010, 07:05:36
  Nice work on the Franklin. Not trying to hijack your build thread, but I offer some pictures of an FF built completely from scratch by one of our members, Phil Dewsnap. I could post some detail shots of his if its any help to you.

John
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: Model Tug Man August 10, 2010, 08:28:09
Thanks, John. Phil and I have an aquaintence with Karl Kalb of Microglass. Karl made my hull for me and now offers it for sale on his web site. Karl took some pics for me of Phil's Franklin at Toledo a few years ago. She is a beautiful model. Any pictures you have would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

TM
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: oldiron August 10, 2010, 11:45:48
Here are some shots of Phil's Franklin. If there's anything else you need a close up of I can get them.

John
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: oldiron August 10, 2010, 11:46:55
.......and again

John
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: oldiron August 10, 2010, 11:48:31
.........one more time

John
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: Model Tug Man August 11, 2010, 03:37:46
John,

Thanks so much for the pictures. Phil did an absolutely fantastic job on his model which is evident in the detail pics you posted. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind:

Are the winches scratch built of were they purchased somewhere?

Do you have any pics of the interior showing the radio and battery installation? I have a few ideas but am always open to suggestions.

Thanks again for the great pictures.

Regards,

TM
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: oldiron August 11, 2010, 03:57:09
John,

Thanks so much for the pictures. Phil did an absolutely fantastic job on his model which is evident in the detail pics you posted. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind:

Are the winches scratch built of were they purchased somewhere?

Do you have any pics of the interior showing the radio and battery installation? I have a few ideas but am always open to suggestions.

Thanks again for the great pictures.

Regards,

TM

  Yeh, Phil does an amazing job. He's one of the top builders in our area.
He did scratch build everything except the prop. The windlass and winches were scratch built. He cast the gears from a gear he found of the appropriate size.
  I'll see him about getting some inside the hull pictures.

John
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: Model Tug Man November 03, 2010, 05:03:31
Have not been able to do much on my Franklin model since August. Have been awaiting surgery for spinal reconstruction. The pain medication makes my hands shaky and it is not conducive to accurate measurements. Anyway--having gotten quite bored I had a go at the after peake scuttle and the gratings alongside the quadrant enclosure. Plans for the original boat show two kedge anchors stowed under the gratings. I am debating putting them on top so they will be visible (artistic license). There is also a tiller bar on the port grating that can be fitted to the rudder quadrant if the steering is disabled (also shown int he original plan). The scuttle was fairly simple to construct and I used an example found on the internet. Some other Franklin builds show a much more elaborate fixture, however, I chose to go with something simple since this was a tug and not the Queen Mary.
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: Footski November 03, 2010, 06:46:34
Simply......Beautiful
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: Model Tug Man November 03, 2010, 07:30:17
Thanks Barry. Slowly forward we creep.
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: Model Tug Man November 12, 2010, 12:00:17
Have not been feeling so bad lately so I was able to get some more work done on the Franklin. The engineroom ventilators were purchased from Shapeways. They have several different sizes and only require some sanding to be made ready. I have them mounted on some styrene tubing to give them the height required. There are only six more to go. The coaling hatches in the towing deck are in. They are made of styrene sheet with the same walnut that the hatch covers and rudder quadrant housing are made from. There are several more of these to be made as well. The winch is permanently mounted and ready to go. I found some old barrels which will be permantly installed along with a spare hawser on a grating on the stbd side of the ER casing. Got started on the mast and should be able to get this finished in a few days. This depends on what SWMBO has for me to do. I also orered two lapstrake lifeboats in early August from Loyalhannah Dockyard. One of them arrived earlier this week. It appears that they used masking tape for the planks when they cast the mould and the tape crinckled up. Anyway after much sanding the planks appear smoother. I ground off the keel shich was just a bead and affixed a styrene strip in its place. I have painted the inside and outside and will add a walnut sheer strake to dress it up a little. I plan to finish the inside and will mount it in place when I move up to the main deck. Will post pics as this progresses.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: Model Tug Man November 12, 2010, 12:02:58
Two more.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: tugs53 November 13, 2010, 14:46:44
First Class detail work there MTM :) :)

Very very realistic cool cool
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: Model Tug Man November 15, 2010, 05:10:41
Thanks Mike.

I have attached another pic of the lifeboat with the shear strakes attached--what a pain. I need to do a little trimming and sanding and then get the inner shear clamp in place after the ribs are in.

I have been working on the mast and derrick and pics will follow in a day or two.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: tugnut November 15, 2010, 12:34:33
Hi MTM you are doing a great job there that winch looks great  :)
As mike said great detail.
regards JOHN
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: Model Tug Man November 16, 2010, 05:00:47
Thanks John. Kind words are always appreciated. Honest ones as well.

Have been working on the mast a bit. Still have to finish the upper end and paint but here is what I have so far.

Also, the second lifeboat arrived yesterday. Can't wait to fasten the shear strakes to that one too.
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: Model Tug Man January 04, 2011, 04:55:46
Have done a little more work on the lifeboat and mast since my spine surgery. Am getting back into it now that I am feeling better. I used some green putty to smoothe out the inside of the hull and quite a bit of sanding. It was necessary to sand the shear of the hull because it is asymetrical. Once the inside was taken care of I used some styrene strips for ribs and they were glued in with CA. A good spray of enemel followed to provide some color. The shear clamp followed and was sanded to match the line of the strake previously added. I installed the small deck area at the bow and stern using walnut as in the other woodwork on the boat. This was glued in with CA and sanded to shape. The floors were installed using walnut strip and lots of sanding. The ledge and seats are walnut as well and were shaped and glued in with CA. Have messed about with oars with little success. Will have to keep trying. I have some oar locks that will go in shortly as will a rudder and hardware to finish this off.
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: Model Tug Man January 04, 2011, 05:05:33
The mast has the top added which is wood dowel. This was clamped in a drill and tapered with sandpaper. I used a dremmel tool to make a channel for the light wire and filled it with green putty. The light is a brass Billings light with a section of brass tube soldered to it to go around the mast. The pullys are from RB Models in Poland and are quite detailed. The rigging is almost ready and should be an interesting project with all of the stays and wires to the multi purpose winch.
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: Model Tug Man January 31, 2011, 04:52:11
Now that my back is feeling better I have been able to return to work on the Franklin. Still a little slow but better than nothing. The mast is in and being rigged. I fastened some angles to the inner bullwarks and have turnbuckles attached on which to affix the backstays. This worked out rather well. Have been hand tying the ratlines beginning with the port side. This is time consuming to say the least and I am looking for a better solution. Any suggestions would be most welcome.The Franklin has two masts and I don't want to be 80 when I am finished. Have been using several different sizes of rigging thread left over from of the sailing ships I have built in the past: Constitution, Cutty Sark, Kearsarge, etc. The turnbuckles and pullys came from RB Models in Poland. Nice stuff and good guys to deal with. The turnbuckles and pullys for the main winch and topping lift are brass and the rest of the pullys have brass sheeves and wooden cheeks. Have also begun work on the towing spans beginning with the farthest aft. This was constructed of Plastruct channel with a length of flat underneath. The plan calls for T section to be used, however, it appears too bulky and does not remotely appear as in the pictures I have of the tug. The channel is supported by Plastruct T section which is glued to the inner face of the bullwark. Plastic rod provides support between the bullwarks. The wooden cladding on the top of the span is more of the walnut as used elsewhere on the boat. Thats about it for now.
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: Footski January 31, 2011, 14:04:28
This is a true Masterclass.....Superb  :) :)
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: tugs53 January 31, 2011, 14:25:25
Totally agree with Barry :) :) :) :)
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: Model Tug Man February 01, 2011, 05:10:54
Thank you gentlemen. Although I believe you exagerate I do appreciate your compliments.

In reviewing the pictures it would seem that some housekeeping is in order. She appears to be a dirty girl.

I have been experimenting with methods to fabricate the smoke stacks. They have to be hollow so that the Foggy will function properly. I purchased some appropriately sized PVC pipe 2 3/8ths OD and placed it in SWMBO's oven on a cookie sheet at 400 degrees. After a few minutes I removed the pipe and flattened it with another cookie sheet to the proper size. My daughter eyeballed the process and coached me on the amount of pressure applied. They turned out rather well and I will post some pictures later. Right now I am figuring a way to make the angled tops. May carve something to make a mould for casting resin.
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: Model Tug Man February 28, 2011, 05:13:20
I was working in the shop the other day and SWMBO came home from work and came down to say hi. 'OMG', she said. 'You're working on the front of it.' :o :o ;D ;D How many comedians are out of work and here she comes looking for a job. But, she was right. There I was red handed working on 'the front.' I had completed the last of the towing spans across the aft deck and was looking for a change of pace. There is still work to be completed at the stern but this will give me something different to look at for a while. I have not decided whether to tie the ratlines on the starboard side or to replace what I have done on the port side with plain back stays. If you wish to share your opinions it would be appreciated. Also I am not sure I like the ladder tied into the lines. This was done on the 1-1 version but does not look so good on the model. I decided to permanently anchor the foredeck in place like it is on one of my other models. Originally the entire boat deck was to be removable but that was too much. The deck was split at the forward face of the bridge where the deck planking will not show the line so much. There are only about 3 or 4 planks on each side there. When I specified the hull with Karl, at Microglass, the forward bullwarks were omitted for some reason. I wanted them to be good and strong so I carried the stem iron above the main hull so the bullwarks could be tied to it for added strength. The cap also joins this to the main hull for additional rigidity. When the deck is glued in I will add some angle at the base and some framing which should about do it. I have done about all I am going to on the life boat and the second one should be al little easier with one under my belt. The stacks are not permanently mounted and have a good deal of detailing remaining. Until next time......
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: Model Tug Man February 28, 2011, 05:17:09
3 more
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: tugs53 February 28, 2011, 08:35:34
Flipping awesome!!

Going to be a real show stopper.
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: Model Tug Man February 28, 2011, 08:38:24
Thanks Mike. Hope I live long enough to finish it.

Do you have an opinion on the stays and ratlines on the mast. Would appreciate your comments.
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: tugnut February 28, 2011, 13:04:01
Hi MTM looking good, cant wait to see the rest.
Keep pictures coming.

regards John
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: Puffin February 28, 2011, 13:12:58
really great job you are doing . Keep the pictures coming .   PUFFIN
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: Footski February 28, 2011, 13:35:41
I am in awe of your skill. Beautiful... :) :)
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: Model Tug Man April 07, 2011, 03:22:11
Have gotten a little more done in the forward area. The vents have been built and painted (same source as the ones on the stern. The beginnings of the mast is there as well. Have spent some time on the forward winches, anchor and cargo. The anchor winch is complete, however, the cargo winch has a bit to go and is just sitting there for the photo. The winches are modified versions of the kit shown earlier in the thread. I have turned a few parts to go with it and have cut it up quite a bit. Got a start on the planking which is white oak like the cladding on the after deck. Have some really nice brass railing stanchions that will go well with the oak. Will be using brass lights from Billings like the one on the aft mast. These have worked well on my other tugs. Until next time.....
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: model tugman April 07, 2011, 03:57:59
Well done M T M she is looking great :) lovely work there ;)  Geo.
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: Model Tug Man April 07, 2011, 04:00:50
Thanks George. Only wish I had more time to work on her. Looking forward to the planking though.
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: model tugman April 07, 2011, 04:45:42
You will have to retire, its more fun and lots of building time.  geo
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: Model Tug Man April 07, 2011, 05:54:32
If the US Government shuts down I may have some time whether I want it or not.
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: tugs53 April 07, 2011, 15:57:09
First class work...as always MTM :) :)
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: Model Tug Man May 02, 2011, 06:46:13
Have gotten a little more done on the deck planking at the bow and the anchor and forward cargo winches. The planking at the pointy end is difficult due to the varying in thickness of the fiberglass in this area. I'm sure it is difficult to lay the mat in an area that restricted. I have noted a cheater plank on a couple of other Franklin models in the same area so I am not alone with this ailment. I moved the anchor winch a tad off center so the planking would match up. The visual lines of the planking make it very difficult to detect so I an not too unhappy. There are a lot of fittings, etc in this area so there is a lot of measuring and fitting. Will keep me off the streets for a while.
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: tugs53 May 02, 2011, 09:00:34
That's where you've been...out on the streets :o :o :o :o  OMG!!!

Your work looks fantastic MTM :) :)
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: Model Tug Man May 02, 2011, 10:47:16
That's where you've been...out on the streets :o :o :o :o  OMG!!!


Thanks.

Gotta make a living some way. ;D :o
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: Model Tug Man May 16, 2011, 03:30:27
A little more progress on the forward deck recently. The forward coal scuttle is finished and in place. The hatch to the forward hold is nearing completion. Need to make lots of hatch boards now. Have made some progress on the planking but much left to do. Am running out of oak strips and will need to cut more. It is difficult to cut the strips so small and not chew up a lot of material in the process.
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: sea monkey May 16, 2011, 19:36:23
Very nice. I'll be using this as reference for my next project.
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: Model Tug Man May 17, 2011, 03:06:38
Thanks Sea Monkey. I have done a great deal of research and have several sources to share.

I posted a few pics of Foundation vessels here:

http://modeltugforum.com/index.php?topic=3476.0
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: Model Tug Man May 25, 2011, 05:39:41
Got a little more done up forward. Am getting really tired of planking. Probably will not do another boat with a wooden deck. Cleaned up the back deck and got the lines ship shape.
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: woodbutcher May 25, 2011, 19:32:44
worth the effort, looks good.Al
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: Model Tug Man May 26, 2011, 03:13:22
Thanks Al. Maybe I will buy some ready cut planks next time. Ripping them on a table saw and cutting and sanding them is a lot of work. Have not cut any fingers off yet.
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: tugs53 May 28, 2011, 09:17:54
Looks fantastic MTM!!!
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: Model Tug Man June 14, 2011, 05:38:19
Thanks Mike.

Still working on the planking. Have to rip the planks from a white oak board and then cut to length and shape the ends. I don't think I will ever get the planking done. Anyway another bitt is on and got bored and did the hatch boards too.
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: Model Tug Man July 20, 2011, 09:52:24
Along with many other denizens of the Forum I have been on vacation, etc and have not done much on my project. I have done a little more planking, put in the last of the deck bollards, started on the mast and am working on the smoke stacks. All at a fairly slow pace.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: tugs53 July 22, 2011, 17:21:20
A slow pace is still progress!!
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: ARH July 23, 2011, 01:37:55
Looking very nice, always look forward to your update,  :) :) :)
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: Model Tug Man July 25, 2011, 03:36:17
Thanks Ron. Compliments from the Master are always welcome. Have not heard from you in some time how are things across the pond?
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: ARH July 25, 2011, 06:37:04
Hi MTM, Well im still taking the tablets, my computer has broke twice in the last 20 days, im on my new lap top waiting for the main one to come back from the repairers.

Iron Duke the battleship you see in my picture at the side of the page has gone to a good home, I will post something up when the main computer comes back, all the pictures are on there. :) :) :)
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: Model Tug Man July 25, 2011, 08:26:59
Certainly hope things improve for you. Would like to hear about the Iron Duke.
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: Model Tug Man August 01, 2011, 04:05:30
As mentioned before, I have been doing a little work on the smoke stacks. These have to be open on the inside to accomodate the wonderful Foggy that is awaiting instalation. I was looking for a simple structure and PVC pipe had worked well for an earlier steam tug that I built in the late 70s so the choice was made. The Franklin's stacks are somewhat more complicated than a nice round pipe, though. The stacks are flat on the sides with an ovoid cross section and a cap that is somewhat complicated. I attempted a few methods of making a plug for a mould which did not work so building it piece meal was the next step. First step is to purchase the correct size of pipe, 2 3/8ths OD. The next step is to cut to length and grind the proper angle in the top, 45 degrees. It is preferable to do this while the pipe is still round. This became apparent shortly after attempting to grind the first oval pipe. "Experience is something you get shortly after you need it." Next step is to flatten it out a bit so into SWMBO's oven on a cookie sheet at 350 for a couple of minutes. Be sure to have a second cookie sheet standing by. After about 2 to 3 minutes remove the pipe from the oven and place the second cookie sheet on top of the pipe applying pressure with oven mitted hands. My daughter was kind enough to provide the eyeball telling me when the pipe was the proper shape. Now we have a pipe that is the right length, flat on the sides and has a bevel on top. I now took some Plastruct styrene plastic T channel and glued it into the inside of the stack opening at the top of the bevel. This provides a nice lip that serves as a base for the next step. It is now time to cut the individual strips of flat Plastruct, about a quarter inch long to make the angled portion of the cap. I clamped a stop in my X-acto miter box since there are several of these. Fitting the end under the T channel I glued the cut strips to the beveled area on the top of the stack. Once these are in place it is necessary to cut triangle pieces to fill in. I used my favorite green putty for the remainder of the filling and lots of sanding. It turned out ok and I am "looking forward" to the second one. I have also spent a little time on the whistle, siren and the steam vents so should have a few pics here shortly. I may find myself wishing I was laying more deck if I am not careful.
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: Model Tug Man August 01, 2011, 04:06:41
More pics
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: Model Tug Man August 01, 2011, 04:10:02
Last ones.
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: tugnut August 01, 2011, 12:02:42
Very neet M T M keep on posting pictures.
regards John B
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: tugs53 August 01, 2011, 15:32:45
Very very nice work.
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: Model Tug Man August 02, 2011, 04:11:14
Thank you, gents.
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: ARH September 23, 2011, 06:44:23
Looking very good MTM,
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: zeevaart1 September 23, 2011, 07:38:08
This is a beautiful model that you have there MTM.
And very well built.
My compliments. :o
Can not wait to see more.
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: Model Tug Man September 23, 2011, 08:37:04
Thank you, gentlemen. Have been doing some more work on the stacks and fore mast but not much. Should have something to post in a little while.
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: Model Tug Man December 24, 2011, 09:31:48
Have made a little progress on the Franklin recently. After breaking one of my smoke stacks I have it repaired and have the easy one just about wrapped up. Also, have made progress on the fore mast. In the photos of the 1:1 Franklin it shows the running lights offset to starboard. There is a hoist for oil lamps because they didn't trust the electric ones. A few pics are attached and, hopefully, there will be more to follow.
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: Model Tug Man December 24, 2011, 09:34:40
Last mast pic. By the way--the lights work but the oil lamps on the hoist will not.
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: tugs53 December 24, 2011, 09:50:34
Mighty fine work MTM :) :)

Got a sore neck looking at those pictures though ;D ;D
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: Model Tug Man December 24, 2011, 10:07:02
How do you think mine feels taking them. Thanks for the kind words good sir.
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: woodbutcher December 24, 2011, 12:11:41
good clean work, and a fine whistle too.Al
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: Model Tug Man December 27, 2011, 05:18:27
Thank you, gentlemen.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: Norseman January 03, 2012, 17:00:30
Hi MTM

I've just spent a very nice evening reading your build log and admiring your lovely work. Especially as this is the build I hope to begin in late autumn. By the way during your research did you ever find an image of her as the Gustavo Ipland c1924? (I haven't)

Dave
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: Model Tug Man January 04, 2012, 07:36:07
Hi Dave. Welcome to the Forum and thanks for the kind words. I have been interested in the Franklin since reading Mowat's books back in middle school--looong time ago. Most of what I have found over the years is posted on the Forum and can be found by searching on Foundation Franklin. I have photos of her as Frisky, Franklin before modification and after. I have searched for pics of her as Gustavo Ipland, however, without success. Sandy McLearn may be able to shed some light on the subject. He has a web site, Haze Grey, which has a great Foundation Maritime area. I am interested in exchanging information about the Franklin with you and look forward to your build. Hope you post it on the Forum. The model construction plans have several errors so look at pictures to confirm what the plans say. Good luck with your project.

TM
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: Model Tug Man January 08, 2012, 14:09:31
Getting a little bored with the smoke stacks so I am working on the companionways while the glue dries on the steam vents.

I have a book Making Model Boats With Styrene by Richard Webb and he has some great information in there. One of the things he does to make small structures is glue sheet many sections of styrene, about 1/8th inch in my case, together to make a solid block a little larger than what you want to finish up with. I sanded it down to size on my trusty Ryobi disk/belt sander. It was then time to start with the walnut cladding much like the way the rudder quadrant housing went together. It seems to be going together well per Mr. Webb's instructions.
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: Model Tug Man January 08, 2012, 14:12:13
And 3 more a little farther along.
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: islander January 08, 2012, 14:53:03
That is a good book.

Nice work!
Very fine detail.

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: Model Tug Man January 09, 2012, 05:46:00
Thanks, Islander. I hope it continues to go well. Then all I have to do is make another one that looks exactly like this one. Sometimes that is the hardest part.
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: Model Tug Man January 15, 2012, 10:30:01
Well, it looks like if you let these things sit around long enough they multiply. Got the second companionway glued up and roughed out on the sander. Have to give kudos to Richard Webb, that method really does work well. Started adding the walnut cladding to number two as I progressed on number one. Was not sure how I was going to do the door or roof so I winged it as I went. Took a little artistic liscense here since these are not very well documented. I have not found any on the internet that have the shed roof like the plan depicts without a sliding hatch so here it is. Will add the door pulls later.
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: Sudbury II January 15, 2012, 11:11:56
Nice!!!    A guy could move right in!

Well done.
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: tugnut January 15, 2012, 11:13:30
Very neet MTM, that life boat is well detailed,also your steem whistle looks great.

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: Footski January 15, 2012, 11:42:53
Magnificent work. Nothing else to say, except more please!
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: Model Tug Man January 16, 2012, 09:23:05
Thanks gents.

As my friend, Karl, says--looks like an outhouse for midgets. Karl always had a way with words. I wish I had more time to work on her but slow is better than none.

Will get the door handles on and finish up the stacks soon. Will probably start on the boiler room casing soon so I can mount some of this stuff and get on with the planking. Sooner or later I will have to start with the electronics. I have a 5 channel radio, esc, foggy, steam whistle and power distribution. There is plenty of room in there for it. Need to see how many batteries I want to use.
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: Model Tug Man January 25, 2012, 16:31:30
Got some work done on the "big" mouse ears--vents that stand behind the wheelhouse. Also the boiler room casing. This incorporates a fidley grating between the vents. The companionways are located on the after end of the forward casing.
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: Norseman January 25, 2012, 17:31:03
Hi - nice mouse ears there.

Re electronics - do you sail in fresh or salt water?

Dave
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: Model Tug Man January 26, 2012, 06:25:32
I like to keep my model boats in fresh water. There are several Forum members that have had their boats in salt water, though.
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: zeevaart1 January 26, 2012, 13:02:21
Model Tug Man nice work on the details.
it will not hurt your model to sail in salt water.
Just after sailing clean the hull.
Some freshwater ponds are also very dirty.
And you must also clean your model.
Whether I'm in saltwater or freshwater sailing.
I always have a spray bottle with fresh water for to clean the hull.
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: tugs53 January 26, 2012, 16:50:17
Awesome work MTM!!
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: Model Tug Man January 27, 2012, 05:12:52
Good advice, Cor. I usually give my boats a good wipe down with a damp paper towel which seems to do the job. The pond is about 15 minutes away while the Chesapeake Bay is 1.5 hours distant. The pond consistantly wins out due to travel time. Besides, it is a nice big pond. Also, there are no jet skis on the pond!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike, thanks for your kind words. It isn't much but time has been short lately. I got a little ahead of myself and decided to get some paint on the vents forgetting that I hadn't sanded a spot of green putty on one of them. Old age setting in I guess. Hope to get some work done on her this weekend and may have something to post next week..
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: Model Tug Man February 28, 2012, 16:15:24
Have made some stuff but none of it is fastened down yet. Should have the forward stack finished this week and ready to go on. Found some wierdness on the Frisky plans regarding the steam supply for the whistle and siren. Will have to work it out. The stacks are supposed to be strait but the deck has a shear--problem. The stacks and masts look like they have the same zero rake so I have taken measurements from the mainmast and will adjust the other items to match. Will include pics of the stacks and how the angle is set later. It was interesting. Got a deal on some SLA batteries and tested the Foggy. Of course it worked great. Need to design the electronics layout. Will have more on that soon as well. Have had some trouble posting so hopefully this time is the charm.
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: Model Tug Man May 10, 2012, 18:00:15
Have gotten back to work on the Franklin now that my little tug has new electronics. Worked on the stacks a little and got the Foggy working.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: tugs53 May 10, 2012, 18:03:34
It's about time!

Been too busy with flags? ^-^

Nice work.
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: olscuzbut May 10, 2012, 19:54:52
Lookin' real good Tug Man.  Thought of that build my self after reading the book, but took a trip to the coast of BC, saw the Rivtow Hercules logging barge and the Franklin moved to the back of my mind.  (not much room in there, so it may never happen)lol
                Norm
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: zeevaart1 May 10, 2012, 22:43:28
Hai MTM she looks realy beautiful.
nice smoke from the funnels, looks great  cool
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: Model Tug Man May 11, 2012, 03:37:17
Thanks gentlemen. Was nice to get back to work on her. Need to lay out some batteries and electronics. Will probably get a kiddie pool (redneck beach) for a test tank. She will need lots of ballast. I have several new SLA batteries for the job.

Mike,

Not too busy with flags. Too busy with the Post Office.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: tugs53 May 11, 2012, 08:54:00
Still????
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: Model Tug Man May 11, 2012, 09:06:22
Just a horrible memory from the past.

How are the "girls"?
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: Model Tug Man June 21, 2012, 16:04:38
Got back to work on the Franklin recently. Now that the 1:1 is in the water and going I was able to give some time to my project. Everything on the boat deck in the pictures is permanently in place. The steering chain covers are in along with the coal hatches on the port side. The rollers for the steering chains are road wheels from a tank model. They are the same type I used on the towing deck chains and look reasonably close to the real thing. I have started the decking on the boat deck and it is going to take a while. This is going to be the last time I cut my own deck planks. Boy, what a pain. Probably the final part I will make is going to be the wheel house. I want it to be perfect and I have learned quite a bit doing the rest of the model. Can't believe I am talking about finishing. I really got inspired by some of the models on the Forum and learned a lot from everyone.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: Puffin June 21, 2012, 16:42:29
That is coming along great ,love the details that you have to .  Keep the photo's coming .  PUFFIN
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: Model Tug Man June 22, 2012, 04:28:52
Thanks Puffin.
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: Sudbury II June 22, 2012, 07:19:01
Looking mighty nice sir.
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: Model Tug Man June 22, 2012, 11:02:37
Thanks Suds. Starting to think about rebuilding my ATA tug after the Franklin is finished. She has the same hull as the Franklin's sister the Foundation Lillian. I was able to finally locate a ATA/ATR plan from Floating Drydock so I can mod the deckhouse and bridge. It will be cool to have sister ships.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: sea monkey June 24, 2012, 20:07:59
Looks great MTM. Good things take time.
Steve
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: Model Tug Man June 25, 2012, 03:59:29
Thanks, Steve. Been doing a little more and should have some more pics in a day or two. Will be able to get the life boat I built a while ago mounted up. Exciting stuff--for me anyway.
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: Model Tug Man June 26, 2012, 16:07:41
Painted the hull of the lifeboat I made a while ago and made the chocks. It will be permanently installed when the decking beneath is complete. Back to the garage to cut more oak for the deck.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: tugs53 June 27, 2012, 12:56:02
Looks awesome MTM. :) :)
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: Model Tug Man June 28, 2012, 08:51:36
Thanks, Mike. Slowly she is starting to look like a tug.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: tugs53 June 28, 2012, 19:02:26
That she is!

The 'Franklin'...if any tug...looks and deserves to be called famous and proven.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: Model Tug Man June 29, 2012, 04:23:20
I have to say that I have learned a great deal about this tug and her sisters through the research and work on this project. It is truly amazing what those guys were able to accomplish back then.
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: Model Tug Man July 06, 2012, 04:22:04
Have been planking some more. No, not that kind of planking. Have completed the port side of the boat deck and only have the stbd side and bridge wings left. Will probably plank the wheelhouse top like the one on the radio shack. Tried to estimate how the planking was extended to the new area at the bow. Tried to tooth it in at the side of the wheelhouse. They had existing planking up to the aft end of the wheelhouse when the work was done at Halifax. May try some fiddly stuff before I move to the other side. If you look at the aft end of the steering chain cover you can see the guide wheel with the chain turning down through the deck to go to the lower level.
: Re: Foundation Franklin Build
: model tugman July 06, 2012, 13:41:30
She is looking very nice,  a lovely job.    ;) ;)
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: Footski July 06, 2012, 22:39:52
Beautiful, simply beautiful. :) :)
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: Model Tug Man July 09, 2012, 03:25:16
Thanks Gents. Looking forward to finishing the deck and moving on.
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: Model Tug Man July 29, 2012, 17:30:44
Dusted off the rigging kit and had a go at some of the stays for the funnel and rigged up the winch on the foremast. Was also able to get the stays run on the stbd side. Started on the davits as well. Afraid its not much. Looking at the pics--I need to tidy up the shop a little.
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: Model Tug Man August 28, 2012, 10:26:01
Recently found another picture of the Franklin at Brookes Scrapbooks in a config I hadn't seen before. Will post the site as well as the picture. Don't know how the pic will do.

http://images.maritimehistoryofthegreatlakes.ca/63091/page/51?w=900&h=700
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: Footski August 28, 2012, 22:34:06
I could not open the photo as it was an old Microsoft Office Word document...
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: ARH August 29, 2012, 01:45:00
Hi Guys, It did open for me , very nice reading :) :)
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: Model Tug Man August 29, 2012, 03:18:35
Couple of things here:

I had not seen the Franklin with the bow partially decked over before. I did not know that they had done this before the Halifax Shipyard job in 1931. Secondly, Mowat states in his book that the Josephine's captain brought her across and here it says that Brushett was her skipper for the trip. Interesting.
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: Model Tug Man October 09, 2012, 09:02:41
Have not done much lately with the exception of a little more rigging on the foremast and started on the davits for the lifeboats. Will share the lifeboat stuff later as it progresses. The two lights rigged to the foremast are oil lamps since they did not trust electrical lights back in the 30s. Stay tuned.
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: zeevaart1 October 09, 2012, 10:52:41
Nice work Model Tug Man.
see is a realy beauty.
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: Footski October 09, 2012, 11:23:32
Beautiful as usual-  :)
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: tugnut October 09, 2012, 11:38:38
Very neet M T M realy is a nice build keep pict coming.
regards John
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: Model Tug Man October 10, 2012, 03:37:53
Thanks gentlemen. Wish I had more to report. Guess I need George to come over here and get this jumpstarted!!!!!!!
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: Model Tug Man October 24, 2012, 03:43:24
Did a little more on the lifeboats. Have been experimenting with the stays for the smoke stacks but need to keep looking. More to come later.

TM
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: model tugman October 24, 2012, 06:56:01
 ^-^ MTM   she sure is a wonderfull build  just keep plugging away at her and you will get there in the end,,, Geo
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: Model Tug Man October 25, 2012, 10:49:14
Thanks, George. That wasn't the first iteration of the davits either. Wish I had more time to work on her. With cold weather coming I may get my wish.
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: chipchase October 26, 2012, 02:09:44
Love the detail on this model, afraid I am starting to struggle with the smaller bits.  :'(
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: Model Tug Man October 26, 2012, 03:30:04
Thanks, Brian. I guess at our age the only thing getting bigger is the magnifying glass. ???
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: Model Tug Man December 03, 2012, 08:28:56
Decided to get a start on the wheelhouse for a bit of a change. The wood on the upper level is going to make the construction interesting. Debating on whether to try and do the interrior or not. Jury is still out on that one. The construction of this part is a straight forward rectangular box with reinforced inside corners. The camber is cut into the upper side and will be duplicated in the trim boards and the solid railings around the bridge wings. This part will be removable to facilitate opening the hull. There will be a radio antenna above the stacks which will make it a bit tricky.
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: Model Tug Man December 03, 2012, 08:31:20
And a shot from the front.
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: olscuzbut December 03, 2012, 08:54:53
Super job MTM.  When do you expect to run sea trials?  Hope you get some video of that.
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: russellward December 03, 2012, 10:29:21
Hi all. It is late to ask a question so late in this fabulous log of the construction of the Franklin, but I am a newbee here. She is one of my all time favourite stars and I was about 7 years old when I first read Mowats book. Well done! Applause and fanfares of trumpets etc.
Can I ask how you handled the glazing of scuttles (portholes)? It is something that still stymies me in the building of my tug Toia (a Saint class). You obviously cut the holes (and beautifully -I like the washers trick and will file that away for use sometime). You cut the holes, did the details and then painted the hull and the pics show them to be holes through the hull. At what stage did you put he glasses in and what did you use? I am sorry if I missed your report on this stage.
Hanging on every word. Thank you, Russell
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: Model Tug Man December 03, 2012, 10:36:37
Thanks, Russell. The "glass" was the last thing to go in after all else was said and done. The portholes were purchased many moons ago from a mail order outfit called Dynamic models. Back in the early 80s or late 70s. They came with a semi clear plastic glass. I popped the glass out and sanded the lip off of the back of the porthole. after the painting was done I glued the glass back in from the inside. Fairly easy. There was a guy building a Douglas Greg that glues a strip of clear plastic film along the inside of the hull behind his portholes. Many ways to do it. Some folks just paint inside of the ring and leave it at that. One gentleman wrote that he cut slices out of clear plastic rod which worked well. There are lots of books out there with great suggestions. Hope you find something useful here.
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: Model Tug Man December 03, 2012, 10:42:08
Olscuzbut, thanks for the kind words. I have a kiddie pool that I am going to use for a test tank in the garage this winter. I have a shelf over the prop shaft for the stern ballast. I also have several SLA batteries with which to ballast the midships and bow. Nothing like useful batteries for ballast. I have re-thought the placement of my Foggy to get the best circulation and the most smoke from the twin funnels. It will probably go on a platform so the tubes can be shorter. With the batteries and lead down low that should reduce any willingness to roll to excess or become a turtle. Stay tuned.
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: VANYA December 03, 2012, 14:00:19
Russell,

The way I do my portholes is to insert the unglazed round port into the side, spray paint the whole unglazed port and whatever is to be painted then when the paint is dry put a bit of tape over the back ( inside ) of the port and carefully drop some nice clear epoxy resin onto the tape from the outside and let it cure.

Once cured remove the tape and you should be left with a nice glazed porthole and a painted inside.

I have tried painting it after glazing but too difficult. It also allows a nice deep porthole as ususally the glazing is 2mm thick and clear on top. Just do not mix the epoxy too vigerously otherwise tiny airbubbles can get trapped in the resin. Use a small stick and just drop resin blobs onto the tape and it nicely covers the surface.

VANYA
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: russellward December 03, 2012, 17:28:10
Van, you're the man. I like that one. The pox would bond into any irregularities. I'm gonna 'fess up. The scuttles was the reason I stalled on "Toia". I had put the foredeck on and had cut the holes for the scuttles with a little cutter I made that left a recess for the glass (plastic sheet) and then a little to make a scale appearance of a recessed port. I had made a punch and cut out myriads of tiny pieces of plastic and then just got so heaved off trying to get them in place that I put her up on the shelf and there she was all this time taunting me. For about 8 + years!
I can reach up inside and tape over them and pour in the poxy and there we are! Simple as that and where wuz you guys when I needed you. Heh heh. Excuse the rant but it was fun.
I'll have Toia in Picton for '13 too! Full ahead, helm amidships!
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: VANYA December 03, 2012, 19:18:58
Russell,

I am only expecting that you can get into the rear of the installed port.

I have done the per-poured port method too but then the problem is painting it. It can be done with a patch of circular tape which is taken off with tweezers or a small round ball of Blu-tac to keep the paint off the new glazing in this case. Not so neat but can do the trick.

My current ports are 9mm inside dia.

VANYA
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: Model Tug Man December 31, 2012, 19:51:41
A little more done on the wheelhouse. A lot of thought has gone into this since it has turned out to be more complicated than I expected. To compound the problem the plans leave much to be desired in this area. Thank God for graph paper and calculators. Will be taking several deep breaths before cutting the windows and doors on the sides of the upper wheelhouse. Fingers crossed......
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: tugs53 January 01, 2013, 10:50:44
Looking Great Trav!


The quicker you get those windows cut...the quicker the captain can see where he's about to go. :D :D


Happy New Year!
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: Model Tug Man January 02, 2013, 04:56:38
Since she is a Canadian tug it would matter not.
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: Model Tug Man January 16, 2013, 16:36:55
Ok, Mike. Here are your windows.
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: russellward January 17, 2013, 00:27:40
Chust divine!
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: donald.waller1 January 17, 2013, 06:16:49
 cool cool
Nice looking tug Model Tug Man I like the detail's, better than my two.
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: Model Tug Man January 17, 2013, 07:23:54
Thanks, Donald. I have wanted to build this since I was in middle school and read Gray Seas Under. Guess you could say it is on my bucket list. Everyone on the Forum has been such an inspiration to do a good job.
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: Model Tug Man February 11, 2013, 04:33:58
A little more done on the wheelhouse. Paint and walnut planking. Oak to follow for the decks on the bridge wings. Walnut for the roof like the one on the radio shack.
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: zeevaart1 February 11, 2013, 05:25:49
MTM, A really nicely built model
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: Model Tug Man February 11, 2013, 05:49:49
Thanks Cor. Was concerned about the forward facing windows but they came out ok. Looking forward to getting some varnish on some of this wood.
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: chipchase February 11, 2013, 13:33:08
You’re making a fantastic job of her Mike; love that 1353 photo you posted in Jan.
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: Model Tug Man February 13, 2013, 04:37:34
Thanks, Chipchase. I like that angle as well. It is close to the angle used for the line drawing in the book.
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: Model Tug Man February 24, 2013, 14:07:55
Got a little more done on the port side and wheelhouse top. Lots of sanding and then some varnish maybe. Need to turn a compass binnical and get a proper search light. Have the stanchions and they will get some paint in the next few days.
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: tugs53 February 24, 2013, 14:32:53
First class work!
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: Model Tug Man February 25, 2013, 04:19:30
Thanks, Mike. It will be a long time before I start another project where I have to cut my own wood. The small planks just get chattered up in the saw too much. It has been a real pain. I got a dremel router table for Christmas and it has been a big help. Having the right tools makes a big difference. A milling machine and plasma cutter would be nice. Accepting donations now. :)
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: Puffin February 26, 2013, 00:59:31
HI ,I have been following your build from the beginning  , it sure  looks top notch  . Keep going you are just about there .  The detail is great  too .   PUFFIN
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: Model Tug Man February 26, 2013, 06:44:26
Thanks, Puffin.

I still have to plank the stbd side of the boat deck and the bridge wing decks. But, that should do it for the oak and after the aft side of the pilot house is done the only other thing that will get any walnut is the other life boat. Still much rigging to do and many fiddly bits.

My next project will have very little wood if any (Foundation Lillian). She was originally a US Navy tug so not many frills.
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: Model Tug Man March 20, 2013, 06:20:55
Have been working on the planking and made some bling for the wheelhouse top. The bridge wing decks are white oak like the other deck planks. The wheelhouse sides are planked with the same walnut as other parts and varnished with low lustre Epifanes. The Epifanes was used on the bridge wing decks as well. The doors to the salvage master's and captain's cabins are in. They match the door to the radio shack. I still need to make the handles for the wheelhouse doors. The ladder to the wheelhouse roof is in and awaiting the grab rails. I have the stanchions for the top railing painted and ready to go in. Just need to check the layout once (or twice) more so that it is right. The compass base was turned from walnut and varnished with Epifanes. The top part was cut from a naval type compass I had for another boat. I used some plastic to dress it up a little and painted it. The search light comes from several different parts. the front part is from a model railroad swivel type light. The back part is from a model truck kit and has been modified quite a bit. All was glued together and painted and works with a 12 V bulb. The annemometer is from a little kit from a UK provider and has been modified a bit. The running light bulbs are in and awaiting the brass housings (Billings) that match the other lights on the boat. I will have to make the ladders from the boat deck to the bridge wings since the ones available are not to the correct angle. Thats about it for now.
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: Model Tug Man April 15, 2013, 07:38:54
Made a few more "fiddley bits" recently. Installed the railing for the wheelhouse and the bell was added. Made a sounding machine which is on the after boat deck as well as a grating for the oil drums to sit on by the engineroom skylight. Need to secure the oil drums with some line to finish that off.
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: Model Tug Man April 15, 2013, 07:40:37
More pics.

There is a pic of a sounding machine I found on the internet that I used as an example.
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: zeevaart1 April 15, 2013, 09:33:13
It's a pice of art,MTM
She's become a beauty on the water.
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: tugnut April 15, 2013, 10:41:58
What a beauty, she is a great model MTM.
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: Model Tug Man April 15, 2013, 11:53:09
Thank you gentlemen.
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: russellward July 25, 2013, 01:36:41
Well, It's been a while since I posted anything, but I had to post this. I bought a book yesterday in an online auction: The vendor had put a picture of the inscription on the auction details and I had to JUMP! Nobody else seemed to want it. Man, I read Grey Seas Under when I was seven. How on earth it found me I do not know: I wasn't even looking in the books section.
It appears to have been presented as a testimonial of regards by the skipper of HMS Frisky (and we all know who she was) to his navigation officer in 1919.
I am so proud to be the custodian of this lovely book. I just wonder how on earth it managed to make its way halfway round the world to New Zealand and how it managed to survive.
I checked on the crew from the 1919 Navy List and Captain Weir is noted but there is no mention of Lt Price (I assume it is his name -the writing is indistinct).
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: Model Tug Man July 25, 2013, 04:01:24
What a wonderful artifact. Thanks for sharing. Did you get it from Boglio?
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: russellward July 25, 2013, 09:04:11
I noticed it on NZs TradeMe. It is a pity that the vendor got it in a pile of "old books" and can't direct me towards its previous owners.
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: Model Tug Man July 26, 2013, 03:08:55
Agreed. However, it is fortunate that you knew the history and kept it from the waste bin.
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: Model Tug Man October 31, 2013, 06:09:38
Found this picture of the Franklin in her earlier days off Bergen.
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: Model Tug Man November 19, 2013, 11:24:21
Have actually been getting a little work done on the Franklin lately, but it is quite slow with other work pending. I have finished the running lights and have completed testing. Will post a picture later. The foredeck and forward hatches have been varnished with a thinned down Epifanes low luster varnish. Don't want the wood getting wet and curling up after all that cutting. I began on the main deck railings and found them to be a bit tall so it was necessary to countersink the holes before screwing them home. They are quite solid once screwed in with a drop of CA. The oil barrels by the engine room casing are mounted on a varnished maple grating and tied down ready for sea. Some modelers will glue something to the deck without securing it as it would be on the ship. I am trying to make her as ship shape as possible. Will try to get the pictures of the lights posted soon.
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: tugnut November 19, 2013, 11:56:50
VERY nice MTM,she looks really neat,keep pictures coming.

John B
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: Model Tug Man November 19, 2013, 12:31:20
Thanks, John. Wish I could build a little faster like George. Maybe this winter.
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: Model Tug Man January 10, 2014, 04:34:26
A little more accomplished with the stanchions and railings. The stanchions have to be countersunk so I have to drill two different size holes for each. They are brass and threaded on the bottom which makes for a very strong mounting point. The chains for the removable sections are a royal pain and I am happy that I only have one left to do. I am currently completing the decking on the starboard boat deck which I had been avoiding. Will be happy when that is done. Made the lifeboat chocks for that side as well. She is getting some topside weight with all of the decking, stacks and bridge structure. Will need plenty of batteries and lead to bring her down to her marks and provide stability. There is lots of room inside for that.
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: tugnut January 11, 2014, 11:51:36
Looking good MTM realy looking a neet model.
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: tugs53 January 12, 2014, 11:52:48
Nice work sir!

Sure going to be a masterpiece.
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: Model Tug Man January 13, 2014, 04:41:25
Thanks, gents.

I really am working on it from time to time. Here is a picture of the deck planking going on as proof. It does take some time to cut each piece.
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: Model Tug Man January 16, 2014, 05:52:07
From a different angle.
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: Model Tug Man January 22, 2014, 06:26:38
Finally completed the deck planking---whew. Looking forward to some of the other fiddley bits that need doing like the other lifeboat, bridge ladders, etc. Stay tuned.
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: Model Tug Man May 08, 2014, 05:47:54
I was sorry to learn of the passing of Farley Mowat yesterday. Mr. Mowat was the author of the book Grey Seas Under which describes the life and times of the salvage tug Foundation Franklin, the subject of my efforts herein. He also authored many other books and served as a focal point for environmental issues long before such things were in vogue. Mr. Mowat lived to the ripe age of 92 and was a week shy of his next birthday.


http://arts.nationalpost.com/2014/05/07/farley-mowat-dead-at-92-an-appreciation/

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: thamestug May 08, 2014, 06:10:04
Well said MTM

Farley Mowat was also author of The Serpents Coil, the true story of the liberty ship Leicester and the deep sea tug Foundation Josephine. R.I.P. and calm seas, Farley.
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: Model Tug Man August 04, 2014, 07:54:33
Was looking around the Internet and found a nice picture of the Franklin standing by the Marsland sunk at the entrance to Saint Johns.
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: Model Tug Man August 04, 2014, 10:52:12
Here are a few more. Will return to the bench for more work on the model soon. Have had some work to do on the 1:1 boat during the spring and summer.
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: tugs53 August 07, 2014, 17:41:02
That's no excuse......... :)
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: Model Tug Man August 08, 2014, 03:44:18
Does this make it better???
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: tugs53 August 08, 2014, 11:35:01
MUCH!!!!
Thanks Trav cool
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: Model Tug Man December 01, 2014, 11:53:16
Back to work in the Franklin's ship yard. I have the radio direction finder completed and ready to be permanently mounted. I have a picture of the franklin that shows the DF mounted towards the front of the radio shack roof rather than in the middle like the plan shows so that is the way I am going with it. Have sanded the defects from the planking in the starboard life boat and the keel and ribs are installed. The first few coats of paint are on and the walnut is waiting for the detail woodwork. I am also working on the radio antenna which will be strung betrwwn the masts and should have more pictures by next week.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson December 01, 2014, 19:59:25
I was sorry to learn of the passing of Farley Mowat yesterday. Mr. Mowat was the author of the book Grey Seas Under which describes the life and times of the salvage tug Foundation Franklin, the subject of my efforts herein. He also authored many other books and served as a focal point for environmental issues long before such things were in vogue. Mr. Mowat lived to the ripe age of 92 and was a week shy of his next birthday.


http://arts.nationalpost.com/2014/05/07/farley-mowat-dead-at-92-an-appreciation/

Don't know how I missed this, but I did. He was always a favorite author of mine. So many hours of great reading. Loved the tug stories, and The Boat that wouldn't Float, and Woman in the Mist, Whale for the Killing. All great stuff.  He lived to a ripe old age and glad he did.
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: Model Tug Man December 10, 2014, 04:59:44
Well--as stated previously I have been working on the wireless aerial and pictures from the plans and some examples are attached. I experienced a bit of a setback when I broke one of the spreader bars which everything connects to. Fortunately I had the one from the other end to fall back on while I made a new one. A little cutting here and there and all of the wires and halyards were transferred to the other one and the new one is on the paint table now. I have one more wire to install on the bar and that end will be done. The Mcintyre connectors are just some plastruct tube cut and filed to suit. The connection and insulators from the radio shack roof are done and painted and should go on this week. The cable goes to the forward funnel and then splits into 4 to go to the antenna. All of the wires are of different size and I hope I have them accurately represented. Until next time---.
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: Model Tug Man December 10, 2014, 05:02:39
A few more.
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: fastfaz December 11, 2014, 09:58:00
 ^-^
      MTM, what a fantastic tug! I have just read through your build (I am a newboy to this modelling having packed in the motorbikes earlier this year) boy have you got some patience. To fit her in my shed I would have to take everything else out, how does she sail?
      Keep up the great work.
           Cheers,
               Peter. :)
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: tugs53 December 11, 2014, 10:58:11
Mighty fine work there MTM.
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: Model Tug Man December 12, 2014, 04:27:55
Peter,

She has not been in the water yet. I have been taking my time and thotoughly enjoying the build. I have the motor and steering installed but not the electronics. The radio and batteries, etc are on the shelf patiently awaiting the day. I estimate her displacement at somewhere around 70 pounds so ballast and dockside preparations will be important. Thanks for the kind words and welcome to the Forum.

TM
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: Model Tug Man December 12, 2014, 04:30:46
Mike,

Thanks. It seems like I am breaking every other thing I try to make so getting lots of practice making everything twice. Should have some time to do some more work on her this winter.

Hope you haven't been washed away by the west coast storm. Keep the fire going and a fresh bottle of rum handy.

TM
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: Tiny69 December 14, 2014, 00:59:08
This build always reminds me of my Dad, Ron Horabin who built a 1:24 Scale version of FF many years ago.  It weighed in at 162lbs on the water.  Lots of lead and a car battery. Looked great sailing around.

Tiny
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: fastfaz December 14, 2014, 05:31:21
Hi MTM,
      I have to ask Tiny how on earth did your dad get the boat in the water? Sounds like you would need a crane, great pic's though. Looking forward to seeing her on the water and to know how much ballast you need. In my Lowgarth there is not a lot maybe 2/3 lbs with a 12 volt lead acid. Keep the good work up.
        Cheers,
            Peter. ;)
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: tug-arlyn-nelson December 14, 2014, 11:51:43
Fantastic FF build!  Neat pix.
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: Tiny69 December 14, 2014, 13:18:42
To answer Peters question, to transport the FF to the lake he used his 1 ton capacity Bedford pick up truck, then the two of us would lower the empty hull into the water.  Then the car battery went in and followed by the precast lead weights.  Being a builder he was able to salvage lead piping and melt it down and cast each into 6lbs weights. Lastly the superstructure was fitted and all the rigging set up.  It would take about fifteen minutes to get ready.

Tiny
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: Model Tug Man December 15, 2014, 05:42:15
Able to show some progress for a change. Here are a few pics of the aerial and it's fittings:
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: Model Tug Man December 15, 2014, 05:50:01
The insulators are painted plastic beads from the craft store. The McIntyre connectors are plastruct tube cut to size with a groove filed in to hold the small thread. The aerial "wires" are crochet yarn. The thread from the McIntyre connectors to the stress reliever on the back of the forward stack disconnects at the steam pressure pipe mount so the deck can be taken up for hull access. The spreader bars on the ends are made up of plastruct and links of jewelry chain. Am going to do a little varnishing next now that everything is glued down to the radio shack. Oh yeah, I need to clean up my shop, too!!! Until next time...
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: fastfaz December 15, 2014, 06:45:17
Hi MTM,
     Yet more great work! your tug looks like museum standard to me and if she sails as good as she looks wow. Keep the pics coming.
       Cheers,
               Peter. :)
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: Model Tug Man December 15, 2014, 07:52:14
Thanks for the kind words, Peter. Been working on this one for quite a while and thoroughly enjoying it.

My next project will be the Foundation Lillian as I already have an ATA hull. The topsides were damaged by some contractors who were working on my house years ago so there will be a lot of stripping out to do first. Looking forward to that one. Not aware of any other models of her out there so this may be a first.
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: Model Tug Man February 02, 2015, 06:12:25
The ladders accessing the bridge are finished. These needed to be scratch built as none of the ones commercially available had the proper angle. Using Plastruct strips I cut the peices to the proper length. I made a little spacer that gave the treads the proper angle and separation. The grab handles are brass wire mounted with a plastic palm and sprung into the bridge railing. Since the bridge assembly is removable I have not glued the ladders in. The grab rails hold them in with a slight tension and they are easy to remove when the time comes. The ladders are visible in the first picture of the 1:1 Franklin if it is enlarged enough. Have also varnished the roof of the radio shack, the cladding on the towing deck and the gratings on either side of the rudder quadrant housing. Still going on the stbd lifeboat.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson February 02, 2015, 14:01:00
Incredible workmanship!  Ever since I read the Grey Seas Under as a kid I have been intrigued with FF. Beautiful build!
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: Model Tug Man February 03, 2015, 05:28:41
Thank you, sir. I read the book when I was in 7th grade and felt like my best friend had died at the end. Had always wanted to build a RC model of her and finally took the plunge. The members on the Forum really inspired and encouraged me to put forth the effort and do the best I could with the build. This is a good place to be.
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: Puffin February 03, 2015, 09:37:17
great build .   PUFFIN
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: Model Tug Man December 04, 2015, 13:35:19
I have been somewhat delinquent in posting progress recently. So many other things to do and no time in which to do it. Last spring I completed the second lifeboat and installed it and the davits. Sometime later I began working on the stays for the main mast and on the starboard railings. See pictures, below. Have been working on the house since then hence no further progress. Will post any future progress in a more timely manner.
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: Model Tug Man December 04, 2015, 13:36:20
Another pic
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: tugs53 December 04, 2015, 14:47:41
Sure looks fine Mr. MTM :)
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: model tugman December 04, 2015, 23:54:13
Beautifully work MTM. Nice to see you back,   Geo.
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: tugnut December 05, 2015, 09:37:47
I will second that Geo glad to see you back MTM.
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: Model Tug Man December 07, 2015, 07:32:04
Thank you, gentlemen. My contract with the Government ended last spring so I guess I am retired now. Have been working on the house getting it ready to sell in the 2016 spring market. Have lost 22 lbs since I retired. No rest for the wicked I guess. Will be moving to Georgia when the house sells. We have a place on Lake Lanier so the trip to the 1:1 boat will be sortened from 2 hours to 2 minutes. Will be able to launch the model tugs from the dock which will be great, too. I will continue to watch the Tug Forum and post any progress of course. Happy Holidays to everyone and a safe and healthy New Year.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson December 07, 2015, 13:38:49
Good on ya!  Love to see FF in the water someday. Welcome to retirement!
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: Franklin January 19, 2018, 13:45:22
Hello..Have you had any progress on the model? I would love to see the finished ship..
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: Franklin January 19, 2018, 14:04:53
Beautiful Model...It could not be any better really....Fine job..