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: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros December 21, 2009, 03:40:34
I am starting this thread, to bring to your attention some lovely old tugs from Piraeus. I would really appreciate any thoughts that you might have on their identity.

Here is a first one, the photo being taken in the 1950s and it depicts a Matsas-owned tug. Any ideas which one it might be?
Apollogies for being a bit blur...

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/unkntug1.jpg)
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: tugs53 December 21, 2009, 11:01:35
No idea as to which tug she is...but a great topic!!!

Keep the info and pictures coming!!


...Cheers...and Welcome Aboard the Forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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: Minotauros December 21, 2009, 12:25:07
Thanks! So, here is another one. Also unknown - to me - she was pictured in 1961.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/unkntug1961.jpg)
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: tugs53 December 21, 2009, 13:01:14
What a sweet lookin tug :) :)

Please add your location, by going to your 'profile'...that way, we all know where yer' at :) :)

...Cheers...
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: rea towing co December 21, 2009, 14:16:10
shes a vernicos tug like this one :)
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: rea towing co December 21, 2009, 14:20:53
this ones from lybousakis the chios 1 piraeus stationed :)
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: rea towing co December 21, 2009, 14:23:32
and heres some piraeus wrecks  :)
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: Todd December 21, 2009, 17:00:26
shes a vernicos tug like this one :)

Except for the exhaust vents she looks like an ex-Alexandra tug of Liverpool.....could she have been the 'North Loch' or 'North isle' ?

Jim
Call off the Hunt....I found this info on her. (I believe that she had other sisters to those mentioned 'Brocklebank' & 'Egerton'...I sailed on the 'Brocklebank' when she was towing the stone from Dinmor to Seaforth for the new dock.)


Her history:

1966 TRAFALGAR, 1992 FAL, 1992 MEGALOCHARI VII, 1999 AGIA MARINA

(sisterships: BROCKENHURST, ROMSEY, VENTNOR, NELSON, TRAFALGAR)
Registered: IMO 6617166 /(GBR)ON 308683 /(GRC)ON 5712
173 GRT, 0 NRT, L31,40m(28,35), B8,23m, D3,353m(3,81)
1 scr, diesel 2tew 8cyl Crossley, 1370bhp-1007kW, sp 11,75kn, bp 21t

TRAFALGAR
1966: Built by "Richard Dunston (Hessle) Ltd" at Hessle (GBR) (YN S834)
1966 -xx/11: delivered to "ATCL - Alexandra Towing Co Ltd" at Liverpool (GBR)
(GBR flag, regd Liverpool, ON 308683, c/s MLDA)
1990: To Mr.Tassos at Piraeus (shipbroker)
1992 -10/06: left Liverpool for Port Penrhyn to have her bottom cleaned and painted, for the delivery voyage renamed FAL
1992: left the Menai Straits with a Greek crew for her new home,still as the FAL
1992: To "Proodos Naftiki Eteria", mng "Megalohari Hellenic Tugboats" at Piraeus (GRC), renamed MEGALOCHARI VII
(GRC flag, regd Piraeus, ON 5712, c/s SW8503, 147 GRT, 33 NRT)
1999: To "Nicolas E. Vernicos Shipping Co Ltd" at Piraeus (GRC), renamed AGIA MARINA
2005: still in service

She has been radically altered since I last saw her. In the late '70s I was a crew member of this vessel when she was owned by Alexandra Towing of Liverpool
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: Minotauros December 22, 2009, 07:02:10
Sometimes, the tugs around Piraeus were called to assist in fires etc

Here is the NISSOS SYROS, pictured in 1967 assisting the fire damaged freighter ATTIKI. Judging from her funnel colours -and "Nissos" prefix- it must have been a Tsavliris tug. Any ideas on her story?

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/nissossyros9-67attikifire.jpg)

Next to her, some other tugs also assist.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/tugs2.jpg)
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: willowgarth December 22, 2009, 13:36:37
Minotauros, Welcome to the forum,  the Nisos Syros was built as the Empire Mustang 1943, in 1947 sold to Tees Towing and sold to Newport Screw Towing Co and renamed Duneagle in 1958, sold to Tsalviris renamed Nisos Syros in1965  Reported dismantled in 1976.
Cheers Fred
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: model tugman December 22, 2009, 23:44:17
the one in the background is the   Tolmiros  ex Napia  ex Empire Jester.  one of my mostest favourite tugs. :D ;D :)
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: model tugman December 22, 2009, 23:52:49
A couple of pictures of the Alexandros Ex Sun XVIII

one when she was first out there and one of her later.
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: Model Tug Man December 23, 2009, 04:37:39
Thanks for all of the really great pictures everyone. This is turning into a really great thread.
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: Minotauros December 23, 2009, 08:40:40
Thanks Fred for the tip on Nissos Syros!

the one in the background is the   Tolmiros  ex Napia  ex Empire Jester.  one of my mostest favourite tugs. :D ;D :)

Well I would say that you have every right to call it a favourite. She was a great looking tug!

Here she is, in a photo given by a dear friend, with Chandris' Regina Prima in the background. She lasted until scrapped in 1986.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/Image7.jpg)
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: model tugman December 23, 2009, 12:10:53
My uncle Harold was skipper of her for years under the Watkins/London tugs flag here is a  picture of her in her haydays

and one of the Sun XVIII
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: Model Tug Man December 23, 2009, 12:30:13
Nice pictures, George. That sure is an old radar set she has there.
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: rea towing co December 23, 2009, 15:09:07
CAN ANYONE NAME THIS GREEK TUG :)
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: model tugman December 24, 2009, 00:20:07
She looks very much like one of four near sisiers built for J H Lamey in the 1960s  they were
Alfred Lamey
James Lamey
William Lamey
B C Lamey
The Alfred and James were later re named Coburg and Huskinson and the William was re named Salthouse and she went to the med in 1987 and was renamed Zamtug II
But which one it could be I don't Know.

Geo.
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: model tugman December 24, 2009, 00:28:22
A Picture of Huskinson
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: Todd December 24, 2009, 00:45:17
Another three of the 'Salthouse'.

Jim
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: Todd December 24, 2009, 01:03:21
CAN ANYONE NAME THIS GREEK TUG :)

She was the ex 'William Lamey' ('Wapping' under Alex flag).The first and smallest built for Lamey (Mersey) also the first with twin up-takes. It must also be noted that when these were built it was still complusory to have a lifeboat and this class made it possible to have only one which could be sited on the mid-line and launched from either side.
My how time have changed.

Jim
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: Todd December 24, 2009, 01:18:05
She looks very much like one of four near sisiers built for J H Lamey in the 1960s  they were
Alfred Lamey
James Lamey
William Lamey
B C Lamey
The Alfred and James were later re named Coburg and Huskinson and the William was re named Salthouse and she went to the med in 1987 and was renamed Zamtug II
But which one it could be I don't Know.

Geo.
Hi Geo.
There were five of that class built for Lamey,,,,'William', 'Alfred', 'James', 'B C' & 'J H'. The William' became the 'Wapping' the others were the 'Salthouse', 'Coburg', 'Hornby' & 'Huskisson' when taken over by Alex Towing. I sailed on the 'Salthouse' but for the life of me I cannot remember her original name though I lean towards the 'Alfred'.
And a photo of the 'Coburg' to complete the set.

Jim
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: model tugman December 24, 2009, 03:52:59
Well done all bring on the next one!
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: model tugman December 24, 2009, 03:56:53
What about the kerapipis V  Ex  Sauria is she still working? another of my favouratest tugs ;D ;D
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: sea.mariner December 24, 2009, 04:08:24
According to my records she sank in 1991.

1968 SAURIA, 1987 TRITON, 1988 KARAPIPERIS VI

Registered: IMO 6817730 /(GBR)ON 335875 /(GRC)ON 4643
165 GRT, L30,82m(27,51), B7,83m, D3,379m(3,81), (101'1"(90'3")x25'8"x11'1"(12'6")) - fifi
1 scr, diesel4tew 6cyl Ruston, 1360bhp-1000kW, sp 12kn

SAURIA
1968: Built by "Richard Dunston (Hessle) Ltd" at Hessle (GBR) (YN S856)
1968 -xx/08: delivered to "Gaselee & Son (Felixtowe) Ltd" at London (GBR)
(GBR flag, regd London, ON 335875, c/s GYUK)
1975: taken over by "ATCL - Alexandra Towing Co (Felixtowe) Ltd" at London (GBR)
1984 -30/07: damaged by collision with mv JULIO ANTONIO MELLA off Felixstowe whilst assisting, taken to Felixstowe and repaired
1987: To "Odisseas III Shipping Co", mng "Michael Gigilinis Shipping Co" at Thessaloniki (GRC), renamed TRITON
(GRC flag, regd Thessaloniki, c/s SW4107)
1988: To "Stavros Karapiperis" at Piraeus (GRC), renamed KARAPIPERIS VI
(GRC flag, regd Piraeus, ON 4643, c/s SW 4107)
1991 -25/04: sank after explosion at Perama Anchorage. Vessel raised 3/5/91 and then broken up.

Regards, Dan.
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: model tugman December 24, 2009, 06:41:03
Thanks Dan  what a shame.
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: rea towing co December 24, 2009, 09:43:45
HERES ANOTHER TAKEN IN GREECE OFF AGISTRI ISLAND NEAR ATHENS  :) GOOD LUCK
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: Minotauros December 24, 2009, 12:19:19
According to my records she sank in 1991.

1991 -25/04: sank after explosion at Perama Anchorage. Vessel raised 3/5/91 and then broken up.

Regards, Dan.

You are right she was sunk by a bomb planted in her keel. However she was left to rot for quite some time as she ended up at the breakers at Eleusis in 2007.
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: sea.mariner December 24, 2009, 13:31:19
George, a couple of photos I have had sent from one of my contacts

Regards, Dan.
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: sea.mariner December 24, 2009, 13:33:15
And from the same contact, 2 photos of a model  ;)

Regards, Dan.
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: tugs53 December 24, 2009, 14:48:57
THAT'S A MIGHTY NICE LOOKING MODEL 8) 8) 8) 8)
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: Sudbury II December 24, 2009, 17:25:25
Still love the older tugs!!!

Form over function.


Suds
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: model tugman December 25, 2009, 03:40:46
Thanks Dan  the model was one that I made a few years ago, cant figure out why a bomb would be planted in her keel though.

all the best for the new year    Geo.
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: Todd December 25, 2009, 08:14:40
Another UK tug that went east....doesn't she look well in those colours ?

Jim
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: Minotauros December 25, 2009, 09:56:02
April 1963 and the tugs were rushed to fight the fire that engulfed Chandris' Bretagne.
They did'nt managed much and Bretagne was left a charred hulk.

A Vernicos tug, I would say of ww2 US origin
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/bretagneandtug.jpg)

and a Matsas tug were among them
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/tug1britanny.jpg)

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: rea towing co December 25, 2009, 13:59:36
HERES ANOTHER X BRIT MEGALOCHARI VI X ? ? ? ?  :)
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: tugs53 December 25, 2009, 14:36:52
Oh my...she's Orange :o :o
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: Todd December 26, 2009, 07:16:22
A trio of her in three different liveries.

Jim

I think the latest additions to this thread have strayed for the topic ie; Steam Tugs. (I am as guilty as others, My Apologies.)
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: rea towing co December 26, 2009, 08:07:40
i agree but its a great area for tugs piraeus near athens greece :)
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: Minotauros December 28, 2009, 01:55:51
Here is the MINOTAUROS - my nameshake  ;) - which operated in the late-60s/early to mid 70s as a harbour tug for Efthymiades, helping the lines' big ferries and cruise ships in Piraeus.

She was allegedly built in 1912 and after the collapse of Efthymiades Lines in the mid70s she was laid up in Piraeus until around 1982. Her traces were then lost. Any information on her past history would be really appreciated.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/minotaur2.jpg)
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: rea towing co December 28, 2009, 01:57:29
NICE PICTURE JUST OUTSIDE THE MAIN HARBOUR OF PIRAEUS  :)
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: rea towing co December 28, 2009, 15:05:10
minotauros in piraeus oct 1983  :)
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: Minotauros December 29, 2009, 00:22:06
Thanks a lot for this, its great to see her in colour!
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: rea towing co December 29, 2009, 02:04:43
ITS THE ONLY PICTURE I HAVE OF HER BUT WILL POST SOME OF MY OLDER PICS OF STEAM TUGS  :)
I HAVE BEEN GOING TO PIRAEUS SINCE 83 AND HAVE 1000S OF PHOTOS FROM THIS MAGIC PORT
REGARDS
PETER :)
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: rea towing co December 29, 2009, 16:21:14
heres another taken in may this year she x liverpool of 1960 and is laid up and for sale built at cammell lairds
any takers  ;)
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: rea towing co December 29, 2009, 16:26:55
another here laid up in perama bay the agia eleni x french tug i think can anyone identify her
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: Todd December 30, 2009, 01:02:48
Peter if you go to (Real Tugs Real Pics > Sad picture) you will see the fate that befell the sisters of the ex-Cock/Alex tug in your picture.

Jim
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: sea.mariner December 30, 2009, 01:06:18
http://modeltugforum.com/index.php?topic=1229.0

Regards, Dan.
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: Minotauros December 30, 2009, 07:37:28
Following are two tugs pictured from a 80s/90s Kritikakis Tugs advertisement.

KAPPA POWER
Built 1959 by Ziegler Frères, Dunkirk as HARDI for Société de Remorquage et de Sauvetage du Nord, France.
12-1974: Sold to Willem Muller B.V. as NEDERLAND,
1985: sold to Power Maritime Co. Piraeus, renamed KAPPA POWER,
10-2000: sold to Portolos Salvage & Towage Maritime Co.
9-2004: sold to Tugs Hatzigabriel Shipping Co., Greece, renamed LUCKY STAR.

KAPPA GUARD
Built as ST-780 for US Army.
1948 renamed Bulbider for Danish owners.
1981: Renamed Stylianos for Greek owners.
1985: Sold; renamed Kappa Guard.
2004: Scrapped at Aliaga.


(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_kappapower-guard.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=kappapower-guard.jpg)
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: Model Tug Man December 30, 2009, 08:24:48
Nice picture--thank you.
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: sea.mariner December 30, 2009, 08:40:46
another here laid up in perama bay the agia eleni x french tug i think can anyone identify her

Have a look at this link,

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=691609

In Perama, Piraeus on June 4, 2008. IMO 5226506. Ex-MARSEILLAIS 4 1949, PERICLES 1977-1994

Hope it helps,

Regards, Dan.
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: rea towing co December 30, 2009, 09:16:14
THANKS DAN THATS GREAT  :)
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: sea.mariner December 30, 2009, 09:30:09
THANKS DAN THATS GREAT  :)

It was just like the Mystery Tug Competition but with the name added  ;D ;D ;D

No probs,

Regards, Dan.
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: rea towing co December 31, 2009, 02:08:10
ANOTHER AGIA ELENI FOR YOU
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: rea towing co December 31, 2009, 02:09:11
AND AT SPEED  :)
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: sea.mariner December 31, 2009, 02:12:50
Here she is again  ;)

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=626138

Regards, Dan.
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: rea towing co December 31, 2009, 02:13:03
AND NOW THE NEW GENERATION OF TUGS IN PIRAEUS ALEXANER 5 PHOTO TAKEN IN ELEUSIS BAY IN 2004  :)
ONE OF A PAIR THE OTHER BEING ALEXANDER 3 BOTH TUGS BASED IN AND AROUND THE PIRAEUS AREA IN GREECE :)
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: rea towing co December 31, 2009, 02:14:20
THANKS DAN  :) THIS IS A GREAT TOPIC  :) :)
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: sea.mariner December 31, 2009, 02:17:47
Once we get back to normal in the New Year, I will have a look through my paper photos and scan any that I have which will be relevent to this topic  ;) I am sure I will have a good few  :)

Regards, Dan.
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: Minotauros December 31, 2009, 03:19:04
Here is another oldies, the NISOS DELOS, former RFA WARDEN, of ww2 origin. Unfortunately, she is gone by now, scrapped back in 1992 having been renamed VERNICOS DIMITRIOS.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_nissosdelos1.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=nissosdelos1.jpg)
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: rea towing co December 31, 2009, 03:58:46
nice picture aris heres one taken a few years ago  :)
hey dan see if you can find this one  :) :) :)
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: sea.mariner December 31, 2009, 05:44:20
Is it a former French tug from Marseilles ?

Regards, Dan.
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: rea towing co December 31, 2009, 06:32:21
its a brit  :)
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: Todd December 31, 2009, 07:12:14
Is it one of Furness W., ? 'Rossmore/garth', 'Kilmore/garth' or 'Foylemore/garth'.

Jim
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: rea towing co December 31, 2009, 07:28:10
hi jim yes your right its the kilmore now hellas in keratsini harbour piraeus in 2002
well done :)
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: sea.mariner December 31, 2009, 07:37:36
 >:( >:( I was getting there but busy right now rebuilding the YORKSHIREMAN's wheelhouse  ;) Does Jim get a prize for your little competition  :o Maybe a small Foggy Generator from Mark  ;D ;D ;D

Regards, Dan.
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: rea towing co December 31, 2009, 08:00:26
heres another that i dont even know the name of  :-[
taken on crete in 2002
x chinese i think
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 04:38:07
x british tug leon at keratsini piraeus greece  :)
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: Todd January 02, 2010, 09:24:48
x british tug leon at keratsini piraeus greece  :)

She reminds me of the Bantry Bay tugs (Cory) but for the life of me I cannot find them in my files, hope I haven't deleted them by mistake.

Jim
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: Todd January 02, 2010, 09:30:36
A few more.....why I think I like the Greek tugs is they are usually older acquired tugs that would have otherwise been lost to the breakers yards.    Don't they look well ?
Jim
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 10:03:41
GREAT PICS JIM  :) :) :) :)
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 10:08:28
HERES ONE WIZARD X HOLLYGARTH OF LIVERPOOL IN PERAMA BAY 2009  :)
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 10:13:06
I MUST SAY THAT I KNOW THAT THESE TUGS ARE NOT STEAM BUT THEY ARE OLDER TYPES OF TUGS AND WHEN I GET ROUND TO IT I WILL POST SOME STEAM TUGS AS I HAVE TO SCAN THE NEGS
ANYWAY..... MORE WIZARD  ;D
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 10:16:19
ONE MORE AGIOS NIKOLAOS X ??????????????? BRITISH MAYBE ???????
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: sea.mariner January 02, 2010, 11:47:36
This is a great topic with great photos and info  :) Maybe a suggestion to a moderator, that the thread should be renamed Greek Tugs ?

Regards, Dan.
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 12:21:27
great idea dan  :) get that man a beer :) :)
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: sea.mariner January 02, 2010, 12:36:26
pm sent to Footski  ;)
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: Todd January 02, 2010, 13:44:05
This is the 'Taxiarchis' as she originally was.

Jim
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: Footski January 02, 2010, 14:09:32
This is a great topic with great photos and info  :) Maybe a suggestion to a moderator, that the thread should be renamed Greek Tugs ?

Regards, Dan.
I have had a look at this, but as far as I am aware it would mean changing the title of each and every post, to change the thread title properly.......Unless one of the other Mods can come up with something

Barry.
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: sea.mariner January 02, 2010, 14:49:59
No probs Footski, I know the thread has digressed alittle bit but under the current heading PIRAEUS STEAM TUGS, although more modern diesel tugs are now being posted, I am sure that if any member has steam tugs to post they will  :)

It was just a thought  ;)

Regards, Dan.
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: tugs53 January 02, 2010, 14:57:31
Topic re-named...and moved to here.    tugs53
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 15:20:14
thanks gents  :)
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 15:24:58
naval greek tug a 409 got to be american i think shes due to be scrapped piraeus may 09
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 15:30:55
megalochari vii bringing panamax peppou into her berth at kynossoura piraeus 09  :)
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 15:33:45
same ship but an ex manchester ship canal tug megalochari 10 pushing up hard  :)
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: sea.mariner January 02, 2010, 15:35:39
Another great photo there of the A409  :) and even more tugs in the background, I think we need to start getting information about these tugs  :)

I have a feeling I know where I will be spending my summer holidays now, apart from Malaga with Footski, in a caravan with Tugmaster, over the pond with Tugs53 and at Balne Moor with Poll  ;D ;D

Keep the photos coming but some more info would be great, I will try my best to find info but so many requests from other members and from my own photographer friends, time is very limited, also trying to finish off the YORKSHIREMAN  :o Oh and I forgot to mention i have a wife and the Christmas Sales are still on  ;D ;D ;D

Regards, Dan.
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: sea.mariner January 02, 2010, 15:38:00
same ship but an ex manchester ship canal tug megalochari 10 pushing up hard  :)

http://www.megalohari-tugs.gr/fleet.asp

 ;) ;)
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: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 15:49:19
nice one dan , point taken  :)
ocean wrestler built 1972 in belgium as the tug wrestler
just undergoing a company change at keratsini in august 2009
great colour scheme  :)
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: sea.mariner January 02, 2010, 15:52:27
Another lovely looking tug with great lines  :)

A bit of info here ;

Registered: IMO 7119044 /(CYM)ON 711090
704 GRT, 40 NRT, L52,33m(45,62), B11,03m, D5,220m(5,80) - fifi
2 cpp +nozzle, bowthr., 2x diesel 2tew V12cyl (1970) GM La Grange type 12-645-E5, 6000bhp total, sp 14,5kn, bp 65t

1972: Built by "Beliard-Murdoch SA" at Oostende (YN C.210)
1972: delivered to "Remorquage Letzer SA" at Antwerpen
(BEL flag, call sign ORQY)
1974: fusioned with "URS - Unie van Redding- en Sleepdienst" at Antwerpen
1989: To "Atlantic Tug & Barge Ltd", mng "Pacific Towing Services Ltd" at Vancouver (CAN), renamed OCEAN WRESTLER
(CYM flag, ON 711090, call sign ZHF22)
2000: To "Pacific Link Ocean Services"
(BRB flag, call sign 8PPL, 807 GRT)
2003: for sale (http://www.maritimesales.com/MK13.htm)

And a link here ;

http://www.wellandcanal.ca/salties/tugs/oceanwrestler/wrestler.htm


Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 02, 2010, 16:02:06
great info dan  :) heres the last one tonight its just a picture of how the greek tugowners love there tugboats and how well they are looked after
with companys in the u k there is no pride in the upkeep of the conditionof the tugs
and the crews have lost faith in the now foreign companys that have taken over the ports of the uk
maybe a greek tugowner should put a fleet of tugs in the u k
they would be the best kept tugs  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner January 02, 2010, 16:04:25
Are you sure the up keep of British tugs has nothing to do with the British Weather and the cost of paint / crews  ?

 ;D ;D

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Todd January 03, 2010, 02:07:47
great info dan  :) heres the last one tonight its just a picture of how the greek tugowners love there tugboats and how well they are looked after
with companys in the u k there is no pride in the upkeep of the conditionof the tugs
and the crews have lost faith in the now foreign companys that have taken over the ports of the uk
maybe a greek tugowner should put a fleet of tugs in the u k
they would be the best kept tugs  :)

Did you notice the vertical rollers that run along the housing (both sides) to enable the bow winch to work the after deck (& vice verse) ?

Jim
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Todd January 03, 2010, 02:14:41
Are you sure the up keep of British tugs has nothing to do with the British Weather and the cost of paint / crews  ?

 ;D ;D

Regards, Dan.

Nothing to do with weather Dan, it hasn't changed that much. The cost of paint is nothing compared to the replacement of steel etc., that is not adequately protected. The number of crew is another matter and a condition brought about by the greed of the boat operators, they are business men not shipping men nor seamen.

Jim
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 03, 2010, 03:01:21
YOUR RIGHT JIM  :) HERES THAT SMALL TUG AGAIN CAN ANYONE IDENTIFY HER ?
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 03, 2010, 14:12:21
naval greek tug a 409 got to be american i think shes due to be scrapped piraeus may 09

A-409 was enrolled in the Greek Navy in 1947, her former names being ENGELADOS and HMS CONFIDENT. Along with her sisters ANTAIOS (A407) and PELOPS (A430) they had a hp of 1200 and were US built, dating from 1942. ANTAIOS and PELOPS were for sale in 2005 but I don't know of their ultimate fate.
I don't know if you have already posted any data on this one, so forgive me if you had.

I remember walking by those tugs back in 1997 at Salamis naval base. There were more ex-US tugs of ww2 vintage at that time. I remember seeing one day the derelict MINOTAUROS (being retired since 1990) which then vanished.

Also, the ex-ST 2125 SAG HARBOUR was inactive for months, seemingly without a Greek name and still with her us army colours.
Another tug of the same design was under repair for over 10 months, but without a name being evident.

Taking photos was of course prohibited, so I now only have a few scetches I had made of those tugs.

Aris
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 03, 2010, 14:53:46
thankyou for that info aris  :)
this is the only picture of a naval tug that i have and i think that she is to be scrapped
as you know it is still forbidden to take pictures of naval ships in this area and having permission from the port authoritys is something that i still need to get every time i visit the area of piraeus
so anyone visiting piraeus make sure that you ASK BEFORE YOU TAKE PHOTOS as this would otherwise compromise the other people who get the right permissions
regards
peter :)
heres a picture of the 1977 built karapiperis 14 x wallasey of alexandra towing liverpool looking as allways in great condition
picture taken in may 09
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: willowgarth January 03, 2010, 15:42:23
Are you sure the up keep of British tugs has nothing to do with the British Weather and the cost of paint / crews  ?

 ;D ;D

Regards, Dan.

Nothing to do with weather Dan, it hasn't changed that much. The cost of paint is nothing compared to the replacement of steel etc., that is not adequately protected. The number of crew is another matter and a condition brought about by the greed of the boat operators, they are business men not shipping men nor seamen.

Jim
As I understand  it tugs in Liverpool are only given a coat of paint during the annual drydocking and paint is not even carried on board (fire risk?). I don't know if any maintenance is done as the crew are at home on call between jobs during their week on. Maybe someone in the job will correct me if I'm wrong
Fred
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 03, 2010, 15:48:11
heres another of the karapiperis fleet the new generation an asd tug x gioia tauro x capo vaticano built 1998 photo in perama bay may 09
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 03, 2010, 15:55:59
your more than likely correct fred  :) the lads are on call and go out to do the job then return home
heres the naxos part sunken in ambelaki salamis island shes for sale as the sign on the bridge says
sorry no info on her  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 03, 2010, 16:06:05
i think minotauros may be able to help with this one sunk close to the wreck of the rasa sayang at kynossoura salamis island photo taken may 09  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 03, 2010, 18:27:02
great pictures all.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 04, 2010, 02:15:20
i think minotauros may be able to help with this one sunk close to the wreck of the rasa sayang at kynossoura salamis island photo taken may 09  :)

Tough one... judging from the corrosion she must have been there for a couple of decades. The "ΣΚΕ" letters at ther funnel might help to identify her, so I will ask around and I'll get back.

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner January 04, 2010, 02:58:09
With all these great photos of Greek tugs, I am feeling I might book a Greek holiday this year  :D

Great photos  :)

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 04, 2010, 08:54:40
Let me take you a trip into the 50s. S/S Queen Frederica is exiting Piraeus en route to New York, assisted by several tugs of different generations. The quality of the photo is truly awful but I though it was worth sharing.. hope you don't disagree.

As for the tugs, I think the first one is the VERNICOS IRINI which is now a museum, check: http://hnsa.org/ships/vernicos.htm (http://hnsa.org/ships/vernicos.htm)
The two at the rear are unidentified but surely owned by Matsas.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Image4vernicosirini.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Image4vernicosirini.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 04, 2010, 10:59:20
thanks aris see if you can find a name and maybe a picture
hers another port of piraeus tug r k 1 sunk in ambelaki harbour gotta be a stateside tug
any ideas :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 04, 2010, 11:06:05
another couple of the megalochari vll passing keretsini and off kynossoura piraeus
enjoy  ;)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 05, 2010, 11:33:55
KARAPIPERIS 18 X SANSONE BUILT 1989 IN ITALY NOW WORKING IN PERAMA BAY PIRAEUS GREECE FOR KARAPIPERIS TUGS  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 05, 2010, 11:41:11
KARAPIPERIS 8 SEEN HERE AFTER BEING RAISED SHE SANK HANDLING A SHIP OFF SALAMIS ISLAND SHES AN X FRENCH TUG  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 05, 2010, 11:48:46
VERNICOS TUGS SALVAGE TUG AGIA VARVARA X CYKLON BUILT POLAND 1974 ON THE CONTAINER TERMINAL NEAR PIRAEUS GREECE 2002  ;)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner January 05, 2010, 11:55:55
Where are these photos coming form ? your own collection or websites ?

If it was the mystery tug competition I would be struggling  :-[ :-[ :-[ (only joking !)

I am enjoying every post on this thread & updating my archives with the information provided  :)

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 05, 2010, 13:36:22
HI DAN ALL MY OWN PHOTOS I HAVE AROUND 29000  :) THATS 29000 OF GREECE AND LIVERPOOL STUFF  :) :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner January 05, 2010, 13:53:22
 :o :o :o A great collection  :) :) I have 15,000+ of tugs and ships from around the world which I have taken, also 10.000+ of slides and a further 10,000+ from friends  :-[

I am certainly warming to the Greek tugs  :)

Regards, Dan
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 08, 2010, 12:38:08
Following is a sad view of the ROYAL M. at the breakers at Eleusis. The one time tug/tender GATCOMBE of 1960, later BERMUDIAN (1969-88), was bought by Marlines in 1989 and briefly used to ferry passengers from the port of Jounnieh in Lebanon to the Marlines' ship waiting offshore. She spent the rest of her days laid up.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_royalm.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=royalm.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 08, 2010, 15:27:19
sad sight of ships at the breakers. :(
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: model tugman January 09, 2010, 04:40:01
keep up the good work just loving it.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 10, 2010, 06:49:03
This time I will take you back to the 1930s. This is Matsas' KENTAVROS, allegedly built in 1926 in France.
She was sunk in 1941 by axis aircraft but raised postwar. Thats all I have on her.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Image1.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Image1.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 10, 2010, 11:48:13
TAXIARCHIS IN PIRAEUS IN MATSAS TOWING COLOURS PHOTO FROM THE 80S  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 13, 2010, 12:54:45
Here is another oldie, LOUCAS MATSAS, depicted during the salvage operations of the Greek ferry ERMOUPOLIS. The ferry, a former Flower class corvette run aground in 1954 off Syros. She was salvaged but subsequently scrapped.

As for LOUCAS MATSAS, unfortunately I don't have anything on her story.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_loucasmatsas1.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=loucasmatsas1.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner January 13, 2010, 13:00:37
Where do you get the photos from  :o As I have said before, a great thread and great photos/information  :) I have always put my interests into tugs & AHTs from the 80's onwards but now feeling I should dig deeper into the history of harbour tugs from around the world  :)

Keep up your photos & information and I am looking forward to seeing more  :D

Thanks & Kind Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 13, 2010, 15:54:45
HI ARIS HERES THE LOUCAS MATSAS AT KERETSINI IN 1983 I HAVE A FEW MORE PICS OF HER THAT I WILL SEND TO YOU
I DONT KNOW WHERE SHE WENT AFTER THIS PICTURE  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 13, 2010, 16:01:25
HERES THE VERNICOS MARTHA OF 1959 ORIGINAL NAME WAS CASHEL
THE FIRST PHOTO IS OF HER AT LIVERPOOL WAITING TO TOW TWO OLD LIVERPOOL TUGS TO GREECE IN THE 80S
THE SECOND PICTURE IS OF HER IN GREECE IN 1983 AT KERETSINI  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 13, 2010, 16:03:22
NEXT THE CAPETAN GIANIS OF 1959 IN HERAKLION HARBOUR IN 2002
SHE WAS THE WILLOWGARTH OF LIVERPOOLS REA TOWING COMPANY  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 13, 2010, 16:10:14
HERES SOME OLD VERNICOS TUGS LAID UP IN KERETSINI HARBOUR IN 1983
GEORGIOS AND VERNICOS NICOS
VERNICOS NICOS WAS AN EX LIVERPOOL TUG I THINK SHE WAS AN OLD COCK TUG BUT WILL FIND SOME MORE INFO OUT
I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GIORGIOS  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 13, 2010, 19:51:23
HERES THE VERNICOS MARTHA OF 1959 ORIGINAL NAME WAS CASHEL
THE FIRST PHOTO IS OF HER AT LIVERPOOL WAITING TO TOW TWO OLD LIVERPOOL TUGS TO GREECE IN THE 80S
THE SECOND PICTURE IS OF HER IN GREECE IN 1983 AT KERETSINI  :)
great looking tug thanks for the pics and keep them coming. :D
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 14, 2010, 13:53:00
HI ARIS HERES THE LOUCAS MATSAS AT KERETSINI IN 1983 I HAVE A FEW MORE PICS OF HER THAT I WILL SEND TO YOU
I DONT KNOW WHERE SHE WENT AFTER THIS PICTURE  :)

I did'nt expect to see her lasting into the 80s. As for the next stop one would presume the scrapyard...

The GEORGIOS is actually the AGHIOS GEORGIOS, and her wheelhouse has been turned into a warehouse.
She was a historic steam tug, built back in 1916 as the SEA DOG. She managed to survive -idle- until scrapped in the mid90s.

As for the photos I have uploaded, most are details from photos that I have purchased from a old photographer. This guy has tens of photos of tugs from the 50s and 60s, but as the price is 20€ each, I have to be very selective...
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: CAJ January 14, 2010, 14:13:54
Great set of pictures Peter,

Shame Geestbay and port slipped off to the breakers. A little part of the bay is heading this way though!
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 14, 2010, 14:27:50
Here is the AGIOS GEORGIOS in happier times, escorting ss Queen Frederica, along with fleetmates.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_agg1.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=agg1.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Todd January 15, 2010, 04:19:58
HERES SOME OLD VERNICOS TUGS LAID UP IN KERETSINI HARBOUR IN 1983
GEORGIOS AND VERNICOS NICOS
VERNICOS NICOS WAS AN EX LIVERPOOL TUG I THINK SHE WAS AN OLD COCK TUG BUT WILL FIND SOME MORE INFO OUT
I DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE GIORGIOS  :)

A couple of the same class, maybe your tug is one of these ?

Jim
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: meechingman January 15, 2010, 06:39:21
Thanks for the pix of Cashel/Vernicos Martha. Another missing hydroconic tug spotted.

Anyone have photos of the Piraeus tug 'Starlet' ex 'Ekole Creek'?

Andy
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 15, 2010, 11:33:45
heres starlet for you  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: meechingman January 15, 2010, 14:47:33
Many thanks, another one spotted!
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 15, 2010, 16:13:53
starlet is a great looking tug.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 15, 2010, 16:42:31
KARAPIPERIS 12 X HENDON ALEX TOWING  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 15, 2010, 16:44:46
VERNICOS TUGS ALONGSIDE THE NAFSI SHIPYARDS IN PERAMA BAY  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 15, 2010, 16:46:10
KARAPIPERIS 10 X LONDON TUG BUT WHICH ONE  ? ? ? ?   :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 15, 2010, 16:47:11
KARAPIPERIS 10
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 15, 2010, 16:50:53
KARAPIPERIS 10  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 15, 2010, 17:00:08
KARAPIPERIS 10  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 15, 2010, 20:54:04
nice pics reas towing. thanks and keep them coming. :D
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: model tugman January 16, 2010, 02:23:41
Karipipis 10   Ex   Hibernia  London tugs ex Watkins
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: model tugman January 16, 2010, 02:25:04
Is that the Wallasey or Sun London moored inside the Hendon?
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 03:06:19
ITS THE WALLASEY :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 03:08:39
HERES A VIEW OF HER OLD NAME  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 03:15:46
KARAPIPERIS 18 X SANSONE ITALIAN TUG FROM NAPLES I THINK  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 05:54:27
MEGAS ALEXANDROS X TITO NERI OF 1974 BUILT ITALY AND SOLD TO GREEKS IN 1981  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 05:57:35
AQUARIUS MATSAS III WATER TUG TOWING WATER BAGS OUT TO THE ISLANDS IN 2002  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 06:02:10
FILLIPOS X SUN TUG OF LONDON I THINK THE SUN III BUT IM NOT SURE PHOTO TAKEN AT HALKIDA IN 2002  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 06:06:56
MINOTAUROS X PLUMGARTH AT HERAKLION HARBOUR IN 2001 NOTE THE BUILDERS PLATE  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 06:10:22
GREEK TUG TOWING  :)
CAPETAN GIANIS TOWING THE GEO MILEV INTO DOCK IN HERAKLION HARBOUR CRETE IN 2001
TUG IS THE OLD WILLOWGARTH OF REA TOWING  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 06:19:57
KARAPIPERIS 5, I THINK SHES AN OLD FRENCH TUG BUILT 1964  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 16, 2010, 06:22:10
Back to the Britanny fire, to see an older Vernicos tug, the VERNICOS FRANGISKI, a former French tug.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Image14.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Image14.jpg)

Next to her, a smaller Matsa tug - unknown to me.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Image15.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Image15.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co January 16, 2010, 06:25:46
HI ARIS GOOD PICTURES  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 16, 2010, 19:11:17
excellent pictures. :D
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 20, 2010, 10:13:35
Still in the 'sixties, a nice looking tug at Piraeus. I think it is the TOLMIROS. And although the photo is blur, I think that she misses an anchor...

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Image2.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Image2.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: model tugman January 20, 2010, 23:39:33
Hi Minotoraus  it is not the Tolmiros too many differences
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 24, 2010, 13:40:05
You are right, after all she has Vernicos livery and not Matsas... sorry.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner January 24, 2010, 15:31:37
Still in the 'sixties, a nice looking tug at Piraeus. I think it is the TOLMIROS. And although the photo is blur, I think that she misses an anchor...

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Image2.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Image2.jpg)

Is there any chance someone could identify the tug ??

It would be nice to hear if they can  :)

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 24, 2010, 18:57:54
Still in the 'sixties, a nice looking tug at Piraeus. I think it is the TOLMIROS. And although the photo is blur, I think that she misses an anchor...

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Image2.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Image2.jpg)

Is there any chance someone could identify the tug ??

It would be nice to hear if they can  :)

Regards, Dan.
the great thing is dan is that your asking!! ;D :P
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner January 24, 2010, 23:14:54
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Footski January 25, 2010, 00:29:12
Come on Dan, you are in danger of losing your crown.......Search that database amigo.. :) ;D :) ;D :) ;D
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Model Tug Man January 25, 2010, 09:49:04
Sorry but Dan has been too busy touring URANUS. :P :P :o
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 25, 2010, 15:50:47
speakin of the URANUS where are the pics dan. ?
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner January 25, 2010, 23:08:38
A new thread will be started today  :) Its been a very busy week and best of all the wife is back at work today so I won't get moaned at being on the forum  ;D

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H January 26, 2010, 06:32:34
says its taking care of buissness. ;) ;D
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros January 28, 2010, 07:02:01
I don't know if it will help anyone on the identification of the prior Vernicos tug, but here she is again with company.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Image61.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Image61.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Todd January 28, 2010, 07:05:31
Rea Towing Co, this should be an easy one for you to recognize albeit one with a sad Liverpool history.

Jim
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros February 07, 2010, 06:03:27
Back in 1967, in the cover of a Piraeus port authority publication, the following Tsavliris tug appeared

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_67tug.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=67tug.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H February 08, 2010, 06:29:17
nice old tug. thanks for posting that.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros February 23, 2010, 08:38:37
Back in the sixties with an unknown Matsas tug pushing the liner PATRIS off to a trip to Australia.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_20202.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=20202.jpg)

And a pre-ww2 shot of -probably- the Matsas tug AGHIOS NIKOLAOS next to an Italian liner.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Aghiosnikolaos.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Aghiosnikolaos.jpg)

And the AGHIOS NIKOLAOS story for those interested:

Built 1895 as MANILA by Cook, WeLton & Gemmel, Hull. Triple expansion engines; 77 NHP. 175 grt.
1920: Renamed ELSI Z.
1926: Sold to L.Matsas; renamed AGHIOS NICOLAOS (1).
3/44: Sunk following sabotage, off Megalo Pefko.
19??: Raised and repaired.
1957: Scrapped in Greece.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H February 23, 2010, 17:18:31
great pics minotauros. i think it amazing how far tug have come in size and power. ;)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros February 24, 2010, 11:15:37
Yes you are right, the evolution is remarcable. Have a look at the Matsas webpage http://www.matsas.gr/TugsPhotos.htm (http://www.matsas.gr/TugsPhotos.htm), for an evolution of their fleet. But don't take every word for granded as there are several mistakes...
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H February 24, 2010, 18:10:20
good reference their Mino. great history in pictures.
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: Sudbury II February 25, 2010, 08:21:52
Love the oldie's :) :) :) :)


Suds
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: Minotauros February 26, 2010, 03:02:34
One of the tugs on the Matsas webpage that I have not managed to find its story is the KERAVNOS. It was supposedly built in 1921 and bought by Matsas in 1974. Any ideas?
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Elias Livadaris February 26, 2010, 04:32:34
Really good pictures, good reference and for me personnally is a treasure of knowledge

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: lightshipman February 26, 2010, 19:20:23
Brilliant, especially seeing the ex Mersey tugs, I used to be at sea in Manchester Liners so seeing the old Liverpool tugs is a bit of nostalgia. One question, which MSC tug is the  Megalochari X, can't find it on Seaweb?
Andy
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner February 27, 2010, 01:45:04
One question, which MSC tug is the  Megalochari X ?

I have her as the former MSC UNDINE  and renamed in 1983 in my archives.

A link here for some information ;

http://www.megalohari-tugs.gr/NewsImages/MEGALOCHARI%20X.pdf

Regards, Dan

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner February 27, 2010, 01:47:28
A link here for some more information ;

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo-124057-Megalochari+X

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros March 06, 2010, 05:51:29
I took a walk at the Perama waterfront and I came accross a derelict old tug. Her name was not evident anywhere, and some folks at the pier did'nt knew much except that she is for sale. Anyone interested?

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_PC150005.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=PC150005.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_PC150008.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=PC150008.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H March 06, 2010, 07:11:39
I wonder when the last time she was run.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros March 14, 2010, 05:59:41
Taken 7 years ago, at Ambelakia Bay, Salamis Island, an old tug whose name has slipped away...

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_tug03.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=tug03.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co March 14, 2010, 11:17:29
hi aris shes the velos x scottish tug scrapped at aliaga turkey  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co March 14, 2010, 11:31:55
she x cory towage maybe the strongbow of 1960 clyde tug
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H March 14, 2010, 20:05:07
great looking old tug. EX cory towing hey. is she under any company flag?
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros March 15, 2010, 07:23:14
You are right, she is the 1961-built Strongbow. She was scrapped in 2005 after 8 years of lay up. Her owners were probably the local shipyard owners, that is Panayotakis Bros, but the funnel sign must be of her previous owners.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Kieran H March 15, 2010, 17:16:28
cool. love learning the history of old tugs.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: tugs53 March 15, 2010, 18:53:34
Great pictures....and history cool cool

Keep'em coming!!!
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros March 26, 2010, 11:06:51
Probably in the sixties, a Matsas tug steams into Piraeus.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_tug1.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=tug1.jpg)

and an older fleetmate, passing behind a riveted bow.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_tug2.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=tug2.jpg)
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: willowgarth March 26, 2010, 15:21:20
RE ex Strongbow, according to Cory History she was renamed Battleaxe in 1976 and later that year was sold to Whitliff Corp Ltd and renamed Lossiemouth. In 1977 sold to stavros Ioannis, Greece and renamed Stavros. 1985 sold to Megalohari Hellenic Tugboats and renamed Velos.  1998 owners, flag and POR deleted from Lloyds Register and tug renamed Ariti. Still in existence Jan 2000.
Cheers,  Fred.
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: Kieran H March 26, 2010, 16:35:15
is she still i service as of 2010? nice classic tug
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner March 27, 2010, 00:53:49
is she still i service as of 2010?

Scrapped in 2005  ;)

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=68093

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships May 22, 2010, 13:11:10
KERAVNOS    Loucas G. Matsas.  built 1921 by A.Pannevis, Alphen as HECTOR for Wijsmuller. Steam triple-expansionof 500ihp,151grt.   1957 to Rimorchi e Salvataggi, Ravenna as CORSINI then in 1974 to Matsas and renamed KERAVNOS. Reported scrapped 1978 (Sea Breezes   54/417 p.593 !). After two visits to Greece (1978 and 81) I too fell under the spell of those lovely second hand Greek tugs and have a good collection of photos and info on them. I've just discovered this forum and it's great !       cheers, Peter
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships May 22, 2010, 14:10:01
Hi Minotauros,  the small Matsas tug in your post (page 11 reply no.150) looks the PIRAEUS which I saw and photographed in Piraeus Sept.1978. Sorry, no other details except for a note that she was built in 1945. Ex Dutch or German perhaps ???      cheers, Peter
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships May 23, 2010, 00:45:39
Another KERAVNOS photographed in Piraeus 05 Sept.1978. This one built 1937 at Venice for Rim.Riuniti Panfido of Venice as TITANUS (no ribald comments please!). 161grt ... 92'11"x 23'1"x 13'1".      1977 sold to Matsas and renamed ....no further details. Presumably the 1921 built (and acquired by Matsas in 1974) KERAVNOS had already been retired,or scrapped, when this was taken.  In immaculate condition she is indeed a credit to her builders and both owners - more details most welcome.         Peter.
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: Todd May 23, 2010, 10:09:07
You are right, she is the 1961-built Strongbow. She was scrapped in 2005 after 8 years of lay up. Her owners were probably the local shipyard owners, that is Panayotakis Bros, but the funnel sign must be of her previous owners.

Minotaurus,
I couldn't find a photo of the 'Strongbow' but she certainly looks a very close sister of one of many named the 'Thunderer' & 'Campaigner'.

Jim
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: ellisgarth May 23, 2010, 12:18:34
heres starlet for you  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships May 29, 2010, 20:40:23
re Reply No.194;    Both THUNDERER and CAMPAIGNER were sold to Greek owners becoming IERAX and  KAPPA respectively. In addition to STRONGBOW other Glasgow tugs that went Greek were VANGUARD/FORAGER (NISOS ANDROS in 1965), WRESTLER of 1957 (CRETA SALVOR in 1979), WRESTLER of 1964 (PANORMITIS in 1984), FLYING MIST (POSEIDON II in 1981), FLYING WITCH (SEKAVIN III in 1979), FLYING PETREL of 1951 (VERNICOS COSTAS(1) in 1963 and FLYING WIZARD (ALEXANDROS in 1978) .......... cheers, Peter.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 01, 2010, 12:15:20
A mixture of Matsases (or should it be Matsii  ....)  displaying the best of British, Italian and American tug design. Taken at Piraeus on 12th Sept.1978 this shows TOLMIROS ex NAPIA, EMPIRE JESTER, KERAVNOS of 1937 ex TITANUS and KERVEROS ex ST-515 awaiting their next job.
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: rea towing co June 01, 2010, 13:21:36
im off to piraeus in the morning
i wish i could turn back the clock to this slide
this is a wonderfull scene in the main harbour at piraeus with the russian cruise ship odessa in the background
please if you have more can you share it with us
my photos only go back to 1983
best regards
peter  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 01, 2010, 13:59:20
O.K. then, Peter try this - Piraeus,same berth on 17th August 1978 !   VERNICOS MARINA (II) of 1921/112grt (sorry, no other details), PIRAEUS  1945/58 (could this be the sunken tug in post no.99 - the funnel bands, rounded hull belting look very similar ?) and another ST, this time AGHIOS GERASIMOS  ex  KNOSSOS  ex  ST-730. Enjoy your trip - Will hopefully have some more postings for your amusement when you return !     cheers, Peter
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 03, 2010, 06:19:16
hi peter
i have seen some of the tugs in your pics but i was only 16 when i first went to piraeus with my camera to take photos
hope you can post some more and when i get home i will post some new ones for you
best regards from greece
peter  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 05, 2010, 05:20:27
Another KERAVNOS photographed in Piraeus 05 Sept.1978. This one built 1937 at Venice for Rim.Riuniti Panfido of Venice as TITANUS (no ribald comments please!). 161grt ... 92'11"x 23'1"x 13'1".      1977 sold to Matsas and renamed ....no further details. Presumably the 1921 built (and acquired by Matsas in 1974) KERAVNOS had already been retired,or scrapped, when this was taken.  In immaculate condition she is indeed a credit to her builders and both owners - more details most welcome.         Peter.

Thank you Peter for the beautiful photos and history of the tugs.

The first KERAVNOS was indeed scrapped in 1977 in Perama. She only lasted a mere three years in Matsas service. Her sister KERVEROS was also scrapped the same year (built 1921 as STENTOR for Wijmuller, also sold in 1957 to Italy as ALBERONI and in 1974 to Matsas).
The second KERAVNOS (ex-TITANUS) was still afloat in the mid-80's.

By the way, there are some great shots of STENTOR and HECTOR at the Wijmuller website: http://bureau-wijsmuller.nl/afbeeldingenhector2.htm (http://bureau-wijsmuller.nl/afbeeldingenhector2.htm).

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 05, 2010, 05:31:33
A mixture of Matsases (or should it be Matsii  ....)  displaying the best of British, Italian and American tug design. Taken at Piraeus on 12th Sept.1978 this shows TOLMIROS ex NAPIA, EMPIRE JESTER, KERAVNOS of 1937 ex TITANUS and KERVEROS ex ST-515 awaiting their next job.

Lovely picture... the harbour tugs used to rest in that pier till the mid 80s, then they left the main harbour and found a new base at the Keratsini docks.

Here is some information on the 2nd KERVEROS

Built 1944 by United Boat Service, City Island, NY, as ST-515 for the US Army.
195?: Sold; renamed PAUL CASSIN, later renamed AUGUSTEO.
 1976: Sold to Loucas G. Matsas & Sons and renamed KERVEROS.
19??: Renamed ANDROMACHE.
1989: Scrapped.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 05, 2010, 05:47:00
VERNICOS MARINA (II) of 1921/112grt (sorry, no other details), PIRAEUS  1945/58 (could this be the sunken tug in post no.99 - the funnel bands, rounded hull belting look very similar ?)

Here is some additional information on VERNICOS MARINA:
Built 1924 by J. Cran & Somerville Ltd., Leith as Ulco for Union Lighterage Co Ltd., London.
1951: Sold to Sir Robert McAlpine & Sons Ltd., London.
1954: Sold to J.H. Pigott & Son Ltd., Grimsby, renamed Lady Constance.
1965: Renamed Lady Dora.
1965: Sold to Tsavliris (Towage & Salvage) Ltd., Piraeus, renamed Nisos Naxos.
1975: Sold to Nicholas E. Vernicos Shipping Co Ltd., Piraeus, renamed Vernicos Marina II.
1985: Scrapped at Perama by Kyriazis Bros.

As for the resemblance between PIRAEUS and the wrecked tug, I do also find a lot of similarities.

Cheers,
Aris
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 05, 2010, 22:58:12
Hi Aris and Pete, ......... thanks for your comments !  And now I present the Tsavliris tug HERACLES - I took this from the ferry KYDON (converted from a tanker) sailing for Souda Bay, Crete on the 17th Aug.1978. HERACLES was built in Belgium for Marseilles owners as the MARSEILLAIS I. In 1966 she became FURET VII, 1973 MICHEL V and in 1975 HERACLES. She had a sister, PERICLES, and they were often seen working together. I have more slides to post and also a lot of B & W negs to scan for posting so dont go away!  Do either of you have photos of the Kritikakis tug STYLIANOS K./KAPPA GUARD ?     cheers, Peter.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 06, 2010, 00:29:49
hi peter more great pics  :)
i will post some of the tugs your after when i get home
i have lots on slide so will get scanning
regards from greece
peter  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 06, 2010, 09:23:08
Here's two more golden oldies which will be familiar to UK members - Firstly, SOTIRIOS laid up at Faliro harbour to the east of Piraeus in Oct.1981. Owned by A.P.Papayanis A.E; Piraeus and built by Clelands, Wallsend in 1942 as EMPIRE PIPER. 1947 sold to John Cooper (Belfast) Ltd. renamed PIPER. 1971 sold to Northern Slipways Ltd. then to Papayanis.  1984 sold to breakers at Rafina.     Next is JASON built for United Towing of Hull as KROOMAN in 1938. Converted from steam to diesel in 1965 and then sold to Maritime Commercial Enterprises (Tsavliris) in 1973 and renamed JASON. Pictured about to back up to retrieve her towline from the beautiful Karagiogios cruise ship NAVARINO on 12 Aug.1978.       till next time, Peter.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 06, 2010, 10:54:44
Great shots Peter, in the first one you have actually captured two ex-Empire ships. You see, behind SOTIRIOS is the training ship SAVILCO of the merchant marine school Pythagoras. She was built in 1938 as the ADLER and later became EMPIRE CONINGSB, MARGRECA, WICKENBURGH, NISSOS THASSOS and SAVILCO before being scrapped in 1984 at Eleusis.

keep them coming!  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 06, 2010, 13:47:28
Hi Aris, thanks for your info on SAVILCO - I knew she had an interesting history, but could'nt find my notes on her (well, it was a long time ago !!! ). Now, to leave Piraeus and visit the Corinth Canal to see THETIS and THESEUS on 8th Sept.1978. With their sister TRITON they were built at the Fairmile Construction Co. , Berwick-on-Tweed, England in 1964-65. The fourth canal tug was the older POSEIDON, a former US Army ST type ........ No.756 to be exact. Unfortuneatly I missed getting any photos of her - hopefully one of you might have.       Peter.             PS   have just noticed in the book Ëmpire Tugs" that the sale for scrap of SOTIRIOS did not eventuate and she was renamed LAVRION until 1987 when reported scrapped ...(again !). Can anyone confirm this ?
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 06, 2010, 20:09:22
A couple of óldies'this time.    First, the Kritikakis tug KONSTANTINOS K. - no details known, then the much more interesting, and better looking, DIO of Petrola (John S.Latsis). Completed
as a steam tug in 1943 by J.Pattje, Waterhuizen, Holland - taken over by Kreigsmarine and named MELLUM. 1st Dec.1945 to Royal Navy and renamed EXPLOITER then allocated to US Forces 2nd Dec.1946. To German owners in 1954, converted to diesel and renamed MELLUM until 1966 when sold to Latsis and renamed DIO. Any more details welcome;   Both photos taken Perama Bay area on 6th Oct.1981.     
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 07, 2010, 19:54:12
Two more Latsis tugs - old and new ..... the IFESTOS I (1980) and the TRIA, built 1949 for Ems Schlepper A.G., Emden as the steam tug HELGOLAND and converted to diesel in 1957 before being sold to Latsis and renamed. Apologies for the quality - it has been cropped from a small part of the slide. The funnel just in front of her foremast belongs to the soon to be scrapped POLYTIMI ANDREADIS, a former T2 type tanker converted to bulk carrier.   Both photos taken 6th Oct.1981.             Peter.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 08, 2010, 19:23:35
Some views of the VERNICOS MARINA II at work, Piraeus Aug.1978. Details of her on p.14 from Minotauros.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 09, 2010, 12:24:02
The fourth canal tug was the older POSEIDON, a former US Army ST type ........ No.756 to be exact. Unfortuneatly I missed getting any photos of her - hopefully one of you might have.

Peter, call it coincidence but I took some photos of the ex-POSEIDON yesterday! The poor ship is abandoned in the small harbour of Karystos in southern Evia. It is reputed that she had engaged in illegal activities and is under arrest.

Here is a short story:
 Built 1944 by Continental Shipbuilding Co., Brooklyn, as ST-756 for the US Army.
 1949: sold to Corinth Canal Co., renamed POSEIDON
 1991: Laid up.
 1998: sold to Sierra Cia Naviera y Comercial SA, San Lorenzo; renamed FOULI.
 ~2000: arrested at Karystos and laid up.

and the photos:
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Fouli4.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Fouli4.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Fouli7.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Fouli7.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_Fouli1.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=Fouli1.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 09, 2010, 12:46:28
DIO of Petrola ....1966 when sold to Latsis and renamed DIO. Any more details welcome;   Both photos taken Perama Bay area on 6th Oct.1981.     

My sources mention that DIO (translation is "Two") remained in Latsis hands until 1979. But since the photo was taken in 1981 it prooves that she was still around.

p.s. Great photos of MARINA VERNICOU  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 10, 2010, 00:31:45
Great post, thanks Aris - those ST tugs are amongst my all time favourites. And now for all fans of Greek and ST tugs here is VERNICOS IRINI built 1944 at Brooklyn as ST-755. Shown here hard at work in Heraklion harbour, the first photo was taken on 31st Aug.1978. The next day the crew interupted their funnel painting to assist the ITHACA out of harbour. The V.IRINI is now preserved in an Istanbul museum.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 10, 2010, 01:43:54
hi peter / aris the tug that is sunk off kynossoura is indeed the matsas tug piraeus
aris can you find out what happened to her after she was sold by matsas and how she came to her end off salamis island
thankyou in advance
peter
p s im still in greece yippppeeeee !!!!!!!
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 11, 2010, 12:00:00
Peter, I will try to find what happened to PIRAEUS and she went down at Salamis.
In the mean time another shor of MINOTAUROS, that I have posted at the end of page #3.
Still have not managed to find something on her past.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_minotauros.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=minotauros.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 11, 2010, 23:13:27
thanks aris i will post more pictures soon
peter
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 12, 2010, 14:30:21
More ST's .....  this time the much changed Vernicos ARMADORES II (taken Oct.1981) ex MOLOSSO  '64,  ESSO STANDARD II   '61, ST-741. Built 1944 by Tampa Marine Co. Next is the Loucas G.Matsas 1944 built KERVEROS  (ex ST-515) shown in Piraeus 12th Sept.1978.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 13, 2010, 12:17:29
Great shots of ARMADORES II, Peter! especially the first one is amazing  :)

The name Armadores was somewhat unlucky for Vernicos. The first tug named ARMADORES (built 1943) was accidentaly sunk by the cruise ship Agamemnon in 1964 with the loss of one life.
As far as I know, ARMADORES II also sunk in 1986.

Here is ARMADORES along with IOANNIS MATSAS at Syros.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_ioannismatsas-armadores.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=ioannismatsas-armadores.jpg)

Here is the story of ΙΟΑΝΝΙS MATSAS:
Built 1924 as SIR WILLIAM MACINTOSH for Dept of Railways & Harbours, South Africa. 226 grt.
1937: Sold to James Dredging, Towage & Tpt Co Ltd.
1938: Renamed PROTEA.
1938: Sold to Tees Towing Co Ltd., renamed EUSTON CROSS.
1960: Sold to Loucas Matsas & Sons, renamed THISEUS.
1972: Renamed IOANNIS MATSAS.
1978: Renamed THISEUS.
1981: Scrapped in Greece.

and another photo of IOANNIS MATSAS at Syros with probably ARMADORES alongside.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_ioannismatsasatsyros1.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=ioannismatsasatsyros1.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 14, 2010, 23:55:58
No apologies for yet another ST - this time Loucas Matsas & Sons, AGHIOS GERASIMOS  ex KNOSSOS  ex  ST-730. Beautiful little tugs, these and the DPC type are amongst my all time favourites - perhaps a thread devoted to these might appeal to members ? What do you think moderators ?    Next post, TANAC tugs ......mmmmmm, luvly !
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 15, 2010, 09:42:07
Here is VERNICOS FANY helping the cruise ship DELOS berth (ex WAPPEN VON HAMBURG, nowdays restored as XANADU). Another Vernicos tug is to her right.

Any information on her story is most welcomed!

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_vernicosfanyetal.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=vernicosfanyetal.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 15, 2010, 12:48:58
And two shots of a contemporary tug, ARCHANGELOS M. of Fournarakis tugs. Built 1975, formerly MEGALOCHARI VIII of Panayotakis Tugs.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_P6130052.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=P6130052.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_P6130054.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=P6130054.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Footski June 15, 2010, 22:32:22
Some superb pictures there guys. many thanks for this thread, it really does add to the forum.... :) :) :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 10:56:46
i wish i was back in greece  :(
anyway heres some photos from last week begining with megalochari ten an ex manchester ship canal tug
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 11:02:07
shes the x msc undine from manchester now working the piraeus areas  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 12:21:22
heres the karapiperis 16 x seasider of tyne towage during towing operations in perama bay :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 12:23:46
the alexander 5 exiting dry dock in piraeus main harbour  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 12:26:38
karapiperis 4 towig the hellas liberty from perama bay to the main harbour  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 12:29:31
hellas liberty with the karapiperis tugs  :) the ship was a gift from america and the greeks have done a fine job in putting her back in order  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 12:33:43
karapiperis new generation a damen asd tug the most powerfull asd in greece x gioia tauro from italy  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 13:08:47
heres an x greek navy tug that is up for sale  :)
she is apparently like new inside
hey peter how would you like to own this  ;)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 16, 2010, 13:16:35
leon x anglegarth in keratsini piraeus  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 02:56:24
OMG ....  Pete, you and Aris have a lot to answer for !  After gathering dust for the last 15 year or so my photos and notes of Greek tugs have been ressurected, accompanied by some curious and concerned sideways glances from certain members of my aquiantance - I don't understand, does she need a hobby ... or a vice ..... I have plenty of both which I am happy to share ! Now Pete I don't usually bother with Lotto but this weekend I have and if I win you and Aris can come for a ride on my new tug after which copious quantitys of Fix beer and Retsina will be supplied - is this the same naval tug A409 in your post No.82 ?  Seriously though she would make a great addition  to the HELLAS LIBERTY considering the large number of US tugs which saw service in Greece after WW2. And now it's TANAC time with Vernicos' KORINTHIA  racing Matsas' PIRAEUS for the next job while VERNICOS MARINA II has a rest and a KARAPIPERIS tends the bunker barge alongside the ferry RETHYMNON  on 17th Aug.1978.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 03:07:41
The lovely little Vernicos TANAC tug KORINTHIA at Piraeus on 5th Sept.1978.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 03:13:23
And KORINTHIA again, this  time 12th Sept.1978.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 03:41:29
Another TANAC, this time AFOVOS (Vernicos) on 10th Sept.1978.  I have traced 9 Tanac's that were sold or transferred to Greece after WW2 mostly under the UNRRA programme. A further two that went to Greece or Albania, and one other to Yugoslavia or Greece.
TANAC's to Greece were Numbers 5 (ATLAS), 6, 10(KYKLOPS), 12, 16(SAMPSON), 46, 88, 101 and 137. Additionaly there were the US built wooden tugs of similar size and appearance designated TUSA of which 35 were built in seven yards - four of these went to Greece under UNRRA in 4/1946; No's  208, 210, 216 and 217. The official designation was V2-M-AL1 and AGHIOS NIKOLAOS is shown here laid up, or abandoned at Heraklion on 1st Sept.1978. Any further info would be most welcome !
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 03:49:53
VERNICOS LEELA, I think she is ex AFOVOS - with a larger, and uglier funnel !
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 03:55:24
CHRISTINA      a former TANAC, any idea which one ?
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 04:10:24
A change of tack now .... MEGALCHARI II and III in Oct.1981.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 19, 2010, 05:55:27
Great shots Peter! To the regret of certain members of your aquiantance, I hope that you will keep on posting those beauties.

For the TANAC tugs the information that I have is very little.
AFOVOS for example is mentioned under Vernicos ownership until 1986.

Here is the Matsas tug CYCLONE, built in 1949, she was with Matsas from 1962 to 1989. Behind her is the ferry AEGAEON (ex-ARTEVELDE).
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_kyklon.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=kyklon.jpg)

Another Matsas tug, the PEGASOS, built in 1958 as SIMSON for Wijmuller, she went to Matsas in 1983 and still around.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_pegasos.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=pegasos.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 19, 2010, 06:00:58
Here is another sunken tug at pretty much the same location - at Kynosoura- with the wreck posted by Peter in post no.99. The photo dates from the late-70’s when the Typaldo’s HELLAS (ex-TAROONA) -seen behind- and her fleetmates were still laid up there. The wreck is Typaldo’s tug EFORIA (ex-PROSPEROUS, built 1942 by Cochrane at Selby for the RN).
From what I have heard Typaldos had another tug named ENERGIA. Apparently they were used in Piraeus to help the company's larger ships dock.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_eforia.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=eforia.jpg)
photo courtesy of the late Antonio Scrimali.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 19, 2010, 10:37:19
ARIS/PETER KEEP EM COMING !!!!! HERES A FEW NEWEYS FOR YOU !!! I WILL HAVE TO START SCANNING THOSE OLDIES WHEN I GET A CHANCE  :) PEGASUS TOWING IN PERAMA BAY
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 19, 2010, 10:40:27
ANOTHER OF PEGASUS IN PERAMA  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner June 19, 2010, 11:34:27
Excellent photos and thanks for the information, looking forward to seeing more photos (& info  ;) )

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 12:20:43
Kalimeera boys, great posts ........ Typaldos did indeed have another tug, the ENERGIA (W-31 of the Royal Navy Flamer class) purchased 18-12-1964.
EYFORIA purchased 07-01-1965 by Typaldos - according to my notes she was sold to Varnima in 1967 and renamed EFORIA, then in 1968 to Seka becoming CAPTAIN SPYROMILIOS (I am now wondering if this is correct) before arriving under tow at United Shipbreakers, Eleusis on 23-08-1980.
I too exchanged a lot of negs. and photos with Antonio Scrimali before his untimely death and attach a couple of them.
KAPPA GUARD formerly STYLIANOS K.,BULBIDER, ST-780 and DPC-80.
Piraeus Port Authority O.L.P. No.1 of which I can find no info on - possibly ex ST-759/DPC-54 or ST-770/DPC-57.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 13:05:26
A bit of a ''mystery tug" competition ..... the first taken Aug.1978 and the other in Oct.1981. Unfortuneatly I could'nt get out on the breakwater, but I did get to meet, and be interviewed by, the local armed security guards ! Luckily no films etc. confiscated. The level of security was certainly an eye-opener for a lad used to the free and easy  access of most NZ and Aussie ports. On my second visit I wrote in advance  to the OLP but never got a reply so I was a little more cautious.
With the benefit of hindsight I always wanted to return, but marriage, children (all grown up now and living in West Australia), marriage break-up etc.etc. all conspired to prevent that.
Anyway, I've still got plenty more to scan and post, so watch this space !   regards, Peter
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 19, 2010, 14:32:19
Two American built wartime standards together ..... VERNICOS IRINI (ST-755) assists the C1-M vessel CYPROS to her berth at Heraklion on 31-08-1978.
And another group shot, this from Antonio Scrimali in July 1990.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 20, 2010, 04:57:47
HI PETER/ARIS HERES THE OLP RK 1 STILL AROUND IN A SUNKEN STATE IN AMBELAKIA SALAMIS ISLAND
I THINK THEY WILL LEAVE HER WHERE SHE IS  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 20, 2010, 07:16:55
Now Pete I don't usually bother with Lotto but this weekend I have and if I win you and Aris can come for a ride on my new tug after which copious quantitys of Fix beer and Retsina will be supplied - is this the same naval tug A409 in your post No.82 ?  Seriously though she would make a great addition  to the HELLAS LIBERTY considering the large number of US tugs which saw service in Greece after WW2.

Should I go buy the beers? Did you won?   :) Anyhow, this is indeed the same tug as in post #82. It is the former Greek Navy tug ACHILLEUS (ex-ENGELADOS, ex-HMS CONFIDENT) which was built in 1942 by Gulfport Shipbuilding Co., Port Arthur, Texas.
Indeed, it would be nice to see one of those veterans next to Hellas Liberty, although the big opportunity was when the veteran AGHIOS GEORGIOS (posts 122 and 126) was scrapped in 1996.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 20, 2010, 08:00:17
EYFORIA purchased 07-01-1965 by Typaldos - according to my notes she was sold to Varnima in 1967 and renamed EFORIA, then in 1968 to Seka becoming CAPTAIN SPYROMILIOS (I am now wondering if this is correct) before arriving under tow at United Shipbreakers, Eleusis on 23-08-1980.
I too exchanged a lot of negs. and photos with Antonio Scrimali before his untimely death and attach a couple of them

Peter, I do have the same information on EFORIA and I do also wonder if it is correct. I have tried to find out the identity of the wrecked ship which bears the Typaldos' logo. It is not one of their passenger ship and I suspect one of the two tugs. Recently I was pointed to EFORIA but I need to verify it somehow... It could be thought that EFORIA was indeed sold but might have not left the moorings and eventually foundered only to be raised and scrapped.
Antonio was a "usual" in the backwaters of Piraeus, coming allmost every year, and I am sure that he is missed by many shiplovers.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 20, 2010, 08:21:24
A bit of a ''mystery tug" competition ..... the first taken Aug.1978 and the other in Oct.1981. Unfortuneatly I could'nt get out on the breakwater, but I did get to meet, and be interviewed by, the local armed security guards !

Getting to that breakwater was not an easy task back then... I did managed once to persuade the guard to let me in but he searched my back on my way in and out to make sure that I was not smuggling something   ???

The dock was filled with all short of vessels in any possible condition. Attached are a couple of shots taken. In the first shot, at the left is LEON with another couple of tugs and at the right is Matsas' ALKYON.
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_keratsini1.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=keratsini1.jpg)

In the second shot, the most prominent tugs are Matsas' MATSAS SALVOR (built 1957) and SMIT MATSAS 2 but I don't seem to remember the redish tugs. The small harbour was badly polluted as one can notice...
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_keratsiniII.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=keratsiniII.jpg)

At your second shot of the breakwater, at mid right, I can make out the veteran AGIOS GEORGIOS with the ungly rectangular built before her funnel.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 26, 2010, 05:37:17
Two shots taken in 1963 next to the charred hulk of Chandri's BRITANNY.
In the first shot I think that the tug at the right is PIRAEUS but I cannot make out the name of the on at the left.

In the second shot is a partial of VERNICOS FRANGISKI.

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_britannytugs.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=britannytugs.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_vernicosfrabg.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=vernicosfrabg.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 26, 2010, 05:40:38
A nice little Tsaviliris tug, NISSOS ITHAKI. She was built in 1922 and operated for Tsavliris in 1969-73. Any addittional information will be more than welcomed!

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_NissosIthaki.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=NissosIthaki.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships June 26, 2010, 22:08:57
Great series of shots of those older tugs Aris. Info on the NISOS ITHAKI is scarce and all I can add is that she was built for Cie. Chambon, Marseille as MARSEILLAIS 11 and later renamed MARSEILLAIS 12 for some reason, and in 1969 sold to Tsavliris.
In your other post the tug alongside PIRAEUS is the AGHIOS NICOLAOS II, built 1924 by J.P.Rennoldson & Sons Ltd; Shields, England for Les Abeilles of Le Havre as ABEILLE 20. From 1940-45 she was requisitioned by the Royal Navy, and after being returned to Abeilles was sold to Matsas in 1957. Completed as a steamer she was converted to diesel at some stage (wether by Abeille or Matsas I have been unable to ascertain).
The funnel of the other tug with the N on the funnel is interesting and, I am sorry to say, I have been unable to identfy it ! Hope this is of some help, regards, Peter.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 27, 2010, 09:17:24
hi peter/aris found this one last year at elevsis
warrior 1 x ????????
im sure you will know her pete
cheers
peter  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros June 28, 2010, 23:34:26
A couple of days ago I paid a visit to the old pier at Keratsini and among some derelict ships I located two old Vernicos tugs
Next to the pier is AGIA MARINA (ex-MEGALOHARI VII), built 1966
and alongside is AGIOS ANDREAS, built 1960 (159grt)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_P6260002.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=P6260002.jpg)

(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_P6260004.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=P6260004.jpg)

The previous name of AGIA MARINA is still visible
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_P6270006.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=P6270006.jpg)

AGIOS ANDREAS rusting away
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/th_P6270008agiosandreas.jpg) (http://s570.photobucket.com/albums/ss150/HellenicSailor/?action=view&current=P6270008agiosandreas.jpg)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co June 29, 2010, 14:00:37
HI ARIS BOTH TUGS ORIGINATE FROM LIVERPOOL BOTH ALEXANDER TOWING COMPANY  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 01, 2010, 01:03:37
Well Pete, your post No.255 has got me beat - she does'nt appear to match any of the civilian Greek ST's (if there are in fact any still in service) so I can only suggest that she MAY be the Navy tug MINOTAUROS, ex THESEUS ex ST-539, built 1944 by Port Houston Iron Works. Corrections on that are welcome!  I see that Lekko have published a book on these little beauties - I'm gonna have to stop waiting for the exchange rate to improve and just get a copy !
By the way, cancel that beer order - I remember now why I don't bother with Lotto ..... someone else always wins.
Attached is a photo of ST's V.MANOS and ARMADORES II (A.Scrimali photo) together, plus one you may be able to identify for me ... my Greek alphabet is more than a little rusty but it looks something like ASPROGIALI to me - over to you boys now,  cheers, Peter
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros July 01, 2010, 04:41:58
Hi Peter, it is indeed ASPROGIALI.
Since you posted the old ARMADORES II lets she the current namesake.

And there is a namesake for the MEGALOHARI VII that I posted a little before under the name AGIA MARINA.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 03, 2010, 22:57:58
Thanks for confirming my rudimentary Greek Aris, but do you have any details of owner and previous names?  And now, to keep the ball rolling,here is the Tsavliris tug PERSEUS (ex PROVENCAL 3) and ANDROCLES (MARSEILLAIS 3) working with HERACLES (MARSEILLAIS 1).
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros July 04, 2010, 10:32:43
Peter the only information that I found on ASPROGIALI is that she was the former GOELAND II, probably owned by Portolos. There is a report that she foundered at Ambelaki in Salamis Island where the defunct Portolos tugs are laid up. But in a recent visit to Ambelaki I did'nt seen any signs of a wreck that could be her.

At Ambelaki, nearby OLP No.1, lies another abandoned tug the NAXOS. Unfortunately I don't have something more on her, but there is a sign "for sale" written with paint oh her.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros July 04, 2010, 10:40:30
And speeking of Portolos Tugs, here is a small member of the fleet the MIMIS P.
I took the photos at the port of Kalamata about a month ago, and she seems to be laid up there. I did'nt managed to find any information on her story but she surely looks old.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 05, 2010, 00:36:40
Interesting,...... a former Goeland tug - this would make her the second such tug to see service at Piraeus. The first was VERNICOS FANNY in your post No.221 assisting the DELOS.
   
     Built 1923 by Cochrane & Sons Ltd; Selby, U.K. as TORRIS for Thompson Towage Co.,Hull.
     1926 Thompson taken over by United Towing Co.,Hull.
     1927 renamed PRESSMAN.
     1938 sold to Soc.Anon.las Goelands, Oran, renamed GOELAND II.
     1961 sold to Vernicos, renamed VERNICOS FANNY.
     fate unknown.





: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 05, 2010, 23:57:06
And the larger tug in post 221 is the former Royal Navy 'Saint'class rescue tug VERNICOS NICOLAOS ex KUMAKI '53 (British Tanker Co) ex ST.BOTOLPH '26 - built 1919.
Lloyds 1966-67 note that she has been laid-up, surveys overdue since 4/1963.

The ferry in the background is PINDOS ex PINDOS II '65 (b.1907 - John Tripos, owner) and the DELOS was sold in 1967, which would date this photo between 1965-67. Loucas Matsas also had a Saint class, the former ST.ATHAN which also saw service with British Tanker (without renaming), to become MARIGO MATSAS III. Eventual fate of both tugs is unknown (to me, anyway...).

Attached are three Tsavliris ex Royal Navy tugs, the NISOS CHIOS, DELOS and MYKONOS - ex SAUCY, WARDEN and EXPERT resp. Photos purchased some 30years ago from the late Alex Duncan.

    cheers, Peter.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros July 06, 2010, 10:26:29
Thank you Peter for identifying the two tugs in post 221. For VERNICOS NICOLAOS I have a note that she was retired from the fleet in 1965.

MARIGO MATSAS III was scrapped at Perama in mid 1971.

The Tsavliris tugs are very interesting. I recently came accross the following tug, any chance we nail her identity?

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 07, 2010, 00:50:24
Hi Aris, try NISOS HYDRA built 1930 as NEW GAMECOCK by A.Hall & Co.Ltd;Aberdeen for Gamecock Steam Towing Co;London.
   
       
         1933 sold to Crown Agents for the Colonies, renamed STEADY.
         1935 to Government of Palestine, Haifa (same name).
         1948 to Government of Israel, renamed EYTANAH.
         1966 NISOS HYDRA   Tsavliris.
         1975 ACHILLEUS Maritime Commercial Ent.
       
Thamestugs.uk  list her as being scrapped at Aliaga in 1995 - I'm not sure if that is correct.

And here is NISOS TINOS  ex  PRETTY  ex  FOREMOST 83, built 1931.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 07, 2010, 01:20:35
And your post No.166 Aris ......   NISOS SPETSAI.

     built 1935 by Scott & Sons, Bowling as ROACH for Gov't of Palestine.
     1948  Gov't of Israel, renamed TZURIYAH.
             (later Israeli Ports Authority, name amended to JURIAH).
     1966 NISOS SPETSAI   Tsavliris
     1974 POSEIDON    Maritime Commercial
     1978-23 March .. struck by ship while moored in Piraeus. Sunk, raised and sold for scrapping.

The tugs behind her are the Vernicos' Tanac's KORINTHIA (alongside quay) and AFOVOS - easy to tell the difference between these two ...... KORINTHIA's accomodation has an angled plate from upper deck of accomodation to sides. Not very well explained, but see my pics of them to see what I mean,   cheers Peter.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros July 08, 2010, 08:01:19
Thanks a lot Peter for the information on the Tsavliris tugs  :)

hi peter / aris the tug that is sunk off kynossoura is indeed the matsas tug piraeus
aris can you find out what happened to her after she was sold by matsas and how she came to her end off salamis island

There is another scenario for the idendity of the sunker tug at Kynosoura.
In Nov.23, 1998 at Salonica harbour, the tug AGHIOS GEORGIOS (ex-VERNICOU DEMI, INTREPIDE) (218 grt,32 meters long, built 1958 at Ziegler Freres, Dunkerque) was set on fire that spread from a tanker; all four crew members lost their lives. The burning AGHIOS GEORGIOS drifted and went aground. At that time she was owned by "Thermaicos".
According to a friend the wreck at Kynosoura is the AGHIOS GEORGIOS. If that is the case she must have been brought there from Salonica to examine whether repairs were possible.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co July 08, 2010, 14:03:39
hi aris i think its still the tug i thought due to the size and the similaritys in her bridgeworks
vernicos demi was a larger tug but you never know
maybe we should look again at the funnel letters
peter
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 09, 2010, 17:43:56
No, no , no Aris ! As Pete says V.DEMI was a considerably larger tug with a completely different shaped funnel ......... I'm sticking with PIRAEUS.

 The tanker involved was KRITI GOLD (17,832/72). I have no record of her fate after this, but can't see any sense in towing the DEMI hulk to Piraeus.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co July 10, 2010, 04:52:35
hi pete kriti gold was scrapped in china in 2000 dont know where the demi went
by the way pete how many slides of piraeus do you have ?  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 10, 2010, 17:42:52
Dunno Pete,  hundreds I guess. Slides and B & W negs (35mm from 1978 visit and 6 x 6cm 1981 trip).
A massive scanning job ahead !  I've been emailing Aris some ferrys etc from these visits - if you're interested let me know. I also have lotsa tugs; NZ, Aussie, British etc. etc. if these are of any interest to you. I only get a few at a time scanned otherwise it gets too expensive, but going to investigate cost of scanner for slides and negs. This forum has certainly rekindled my interest in Greek shipping,so much so that I am seriously considering a return trip (2012 probably). Maybe we should all meet up for a few beers (Fix off course !), boats and tall stories !

Meanwhile here is  PROTEUS (1953 as PROVENCAL 12 - Tsavliris 1977), and the cover and fleet list of an old Tsavliris brochure I picked up somewhere.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros July 11, 2010, 02:02:46

Well Peter you are lucky on the Fix beers, they were recently relaunched after a 20 year absence. Now you have every good reason to come   ;)

I will keep on looking for the wrecked tugs' identity, as indeed it can't be VERNICOU DEMI.

In the meantime, let's take a look at the abandoned  and fire damaged tug MACEDON photographed a decade ago at Perama channel. She was built in 1972 and owned by Gigilinis Tugs.
Back in August 1997 she was 100m S of Egypt towing a freighter when she was engulfed by fire. The crew abandoned her and boarded the freighter... and remained there until the Portolos tug EVERLAST came and took both ships in tow.
Next to her is the ex-landing ship SIFNOS that is now half sunk close to the wrecked tug at Kynosoura.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner July 11, 2010, 02:30:42
A quote from ;

http://wrecks.softwaredoc.org/lloyddb/97aug8.htm


Tug towing general cargo ship suffers fire in eastern Meidterranean

     The Macedon (Greek-registry 495,gt, 530-dwt motor tug built in 1972,
operated by Gigilinis Co.) was engulfed in a fire on 4 Aug. while towing
the Rothnie (Bahamian-registry 10,320-gt, 17,474-dwt general cargo ship
built in 1978, operated by Sandford Ship Management Ltd.) in the eastern
Mediterranean. The Macedon cast off the Rothnie and the tug's eight crew
boarded the drifting ship, 160 kilometers/100 miles off Egypt. Both vessels
were later taken in tow by the Everlast (Panamanian-registry 336-dwt motor
tug built in 1977, operated by Portolos Hellenic Tugboats S.A.) and taken
to Syros, Greece.

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co July 12, 2010, 14:49:03
heres one for you both the phoenix or should i say foinix photo taken on the beautifull island of syros built in 1953 she looks great for her age x praia grande built portugal
i thought she maybe a brit but after digging for a while i found her  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co July 12, 2010, 14:51:45
another showing her great lines  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 13, 2010, 00:35:49
Yep, nice tug Pete and she had a sister, the PRAIA DA ADRAGA, which appeared in Greek waters in 1973 as the Tsavliris TITAN until arriving at Aliaga for breaking up on 02 Nov.1995. As far as I know PHOENIX is still in service for Neorion. Another Tsav. tug from Soc.Geral de Comercio etc.etc. was NISOS SKIATHOS ex CINTRA (Port.) ex ENGLISHMAN (United Towing) ex ENCHANTER (Royal Navy Enchanter class). One report says she was sold to Papageorgiou in 1975, but another that she was broken up at Perama in 1975.????
Photos of all three attached - N.SKIATHOS had a new funnel fitted at some stage after her sale by United Towing.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros July 14, 2010, 08:23:09
Great shots Peter,

Have a look at http://www.riverseainternational.co.uk/memories/kronos1942.htm
for a recent uploaded photo of Tsavliris' KRONOS (ex-EMPIRE NED)

Here are two ex-US tugs, the first is from an old postcard depicting the lovely port of Skiathos.
The second is one I took two years ago with Gigilinis' DIMITRIOS at Kavala. She was built in 1948 as ST-256 and then went to French owners as OBEISSANCE.

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co July 15, 2010, 02:26:47
great pics aris/peter . aris do you know where the aigaias has gone x ierax after her conversion in keretsini
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: rea towing co July 15, 2010, 02:29:52
another ! i think she maybe have been around the piraeus area when peter was visiting ? im back in greece on august the 1st aris so maybe we can meet up
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: rea towing co July 15, 2010, 02:40:35
ifestos 2 on the slip at the vernicos yard perama bay greece
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: Todd July 15, 2010, 03:12:52
ifestos 2 on the slip at the vernicos yard perama bay greece

RTC, what is the name of the beast in the background ?   :D   :D

Jim
PS: I have just managed to enlarge the photo and see it is the 'Sea Tern'.    ???   confused
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: rea towing co July 15, 2010, 03:45:52
sea tern under repair at perama yards
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: rea towing co July 15, 2010, 03:47:40
astern of her seabulk toucan under repair
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: rea towing co July 15, 2010, 04:01:30
and just astern of her the local perama duck !!!!!  ;D
i think it was the local policeman in disguise keeping an eye on me  police
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: sea.mariner July 15, 2010, 04:38:05
A link here to the Seabulk Toucan & Sea Tern ;

http://www.navcrator.gr/pages/fleet.htm

Regards, Dan.
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: soiships July 17, 2010, 19:30:59
Gordon Bennet Pete, off to Greece again !!  It's great for some isn't it ! But, have a great time anyway. Interesting to see your post of the former IERAX which although arriving in Greek waters in 1981 I didn't see.
BTW Aris/Pete is there any possibility of getting close enough to OLP P/K 1 to see if there are any remnants of her US Army ST or DPC number at bow or stern? I've narrowed it down to a couple of possibles, but definite confirmation would be nice.
Aris, that is a great shot of the tug and assorted coasters at Skiathos - she bears a lot of similarities(e.g. starboard side davits, tall masts) to the ARMADORES in a previous post of yours, and also the unknown tug standing by the burning BRITTANY.
And now, for your entertainment here is Petrola's DEKAEXI (1944), one of four of this type that went to Petrola. And Matsas' CYCLONE ex ORKAAN and GEORGIOS L.MATSAS (2) ex RESOLVE ex EMPIRE ZONA sold to Matsas in 1974. Both photos courtesy of our friend, Antonio Scrimali.
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: rea towing co July 18, 2010, 03:49:35
HERE WE GO THEN PETE  :)
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: rea towing co July 18, 2010, 03:51:32
AND MORE ! THANKGOD FOR DIGITAL CAMERAS  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: meechingman July 18, 2010, 04:48:55
In the left land corner of r k 1.jpg, there's the unmistakable tripod mast/funnel arrangemement of a 1960's hydroconic tug from PK Harrris or Mitchison's.
Does anyone have any photos of her or know her name?
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: rea towing co July 18, 2010, 05:28:20
hi its the portalos deka x salvor 2 x either the msc tarn or talisman shes laid up for sale but is being stripped for her portholes
nice tug
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships July 18, 2010, 11:21:59
SALVOR 1  ex  M.S.C.TARN
SALVOR 2  ex  M.S.C.TALISMAN

Both tugs left Liverpool 21 Aug.1981, arriving Piraeus 12 Sept.1981.

Thanks for your posts Pete - off to work now (as if I have'nt got better things to do !) so will have a closer look at them later.

Digital cameras; fantastic toys - a pity they were'nt around 30 years ago !
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: Minotauros July 18, 2010, 12:28:25
SALVOR 1  ex  M.S.C.TARN
SALVOR 2  ex  M.S.C.TALISMAN

Both tugs left Liverpool 21 Aug.1981, arriving Piraeus 12 Sept.1981.

Hi gyus, great photos!
PORTOLOS DEKA is the former MSC TALISMAN/SALVOR II. Her sister MSC TARN/SALVOR I did not joined her in the Portolos fleet.

As for OLP R/K 1, I am afraid that there is not something visible on her hull, that could betray her former name.

Peter, I will check for IERAX and I will get back to you.
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: Minotauros July 18, 2010, 12:51:48
And now, for your entertainment here is Petrola's DEKAEXI (1944), one of four of this type that went to Petrola. And Matsas' CYCLONE ex ORKAAN and GEORGIOS L.MATSAS (2) ex RESOLVE ex EMPIRE ZONA sold to Matsas in 1974. Both photos courtesy of our friend, Antonio Scrimali.
DEKAEXI was the former USS IUKA, her story along with a small photo at the breakers is available herehttp://www.navsource.org/archives/09/38/38123.htm (http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/38/38123.htm).
One of her sister was DEKAOKTO, check similar photo at breakers here http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/38/38123.htm (http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/38/38123.htm)
Really great looking ships, but Latsis followed a rather dull naming pattern after numbers. Dekaexi means 16, dekaokto is 18.

Attached is a photo of Matsas' ATLANTIS, taken in Patras in 1988 from the deck rail of T.S.S. QUEEN M. (ex-RANGATIRA).
Built 1941 by Consolidated Shipbuilding Corp., Morris Heights, NY, as MONTEZUMA (YT-145) for the US Army. 216grt.
1976: Sold to Loucas G. Matsas & Sons and renamed ATLANTIS.
1998: Scrapped
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: soiships July 18, 2010, 20:35:43
SALVOR 1 at Perama  -  do you know what became of her Aris ?
 Thanks for the links to the Latsis tugs.  Big powerful looking tugs alright - I seen sisters TANCRED at Adelaide and SPRIGHTLY (converted to research but outwardly little changed) at Sydney while working in Aussie mid 1970's.       Peter.
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: meechingman July 18, 2010, 23:59:56
Oops, ignore this deleted post, I should wake up before typing!  :-[
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Tugboat bill July 19, 2010, 05:18:39
This is a superb thread and the photographs are superb ! This is what this forum is all about
keep up the good work and more pictures please
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: Minotauros July 20, 2010, 00:53:48
Lets pay a visit to Chalkis to see some of the tugs there.

Here are EVRIPOS III (built 1997) and TAKIS M. II which was built in Glasgow in 1957 as WRESTLER and came to Greece in 1979 as CRETA SALVOR. They belong to Evripos Towage Co., along with the smaller EVRIPOS II.
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: sea.mariner July 21, 2010, 09:51:26
Here are EVRIPOS III (built 1997) and TAKIS M. II which was built in Glasgow in 1957 as WRESTLER and came to Greece in 1979 as CRETA SALVOR. They belong to Evripos Towage Co., along with the smaller EVRIPOS II.


Is this the same tug ??

Regards, Dan.
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: Minotauros July 22, 2010, 03:38:52
Yes Dan, I believe it is!
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner July 22, 2010, 07:42:33
Looks like the same tug here but in the form of a model  :o

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1-24th-SCALE-HARBOUR-TUG-WRESTLER-/110562480858?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item19be0992da

Regards, Dan.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros July 22, 2010, 10:18:39
Let's pay a visit to Argostoli at Kephalonia to see the veteran tug MAKIS, owned by Kypriotis Tugs. She was built in 1952 and still looks great!
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: soiships July 26, 2010, 23:52:11
Interesting looking tug Aris - any idea of her origins ?

Now to the Corinth Canal to see two Matsas tugs on their way to Piraeus in Sept.1978.

          KYKLON (1949)  ex  ORKAAN (owner unknown)
          KENTAVROS (1960)  ex  ATLAS (Bugsier).
         
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: Model Tug Man July 27, 2010, 06:54:15
Really like the Kyklon. Thanks for posting.
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: Minotauros July 30, 2010, 11:35:55
aris do you know where the aigaias has gone x ierax after her conversion in keretsini

Ι finally located AIGAIAS at the port of Lavrio in South Attica. If I did'nt knew I would never guess that this is the former IERAX. Her classic lines are lost but I guess she won some extra years of service.

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: Minotauros July 30, 2010, 13:05:45
And speeking of Portolos Tugs, here is a small member of the fleet the MIMIS P.
I took the photos at the port of Kalamata about a month ago, and she seems to be laid up there. I did'nt managed to find any information on her story but she surely looks old.

The barge moved and we now have an uninterupted view of the old little tug MIMIS P(Portolos) at Kalamata.

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: soiships July 30, 2010, 19:41:10
Sure is a pretty little tug Aris - what is the name of ship she is alongside?
And from Kalamata lets go to Heraklion for a look at two very different tugs of the same name on 1st Sept.1978.

The newer one was working with the old dredger AMMO on the harbour extensions, while the wooden US built AG.NIKOLAOS was derelict in the inner harbour. See my post number 236 for a colour scan of her.
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: Minotauros July 31, 2010, 08:46:51
Hi Peter, the motorship alongside is called AMANDA and flies the north korean flag. I think it is under arrest.

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co July 31, 2010, 10:49:22
HI ARIS/PETER
IM OFF TO PIRAEUS IN THE MORNING FOR 3 WEEKS BUT I AM TAKING MY P C WITH ME SO WILL KEEP IN TOUCH
ARIS IVE SENT YOU MESSAGE WITH MY NUMBER SO IF YOU WANT TO MEET UP GIVE ME A CALL
PETER  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co August 23, 2010, 14:14:31
HI GUYS BACK FROM GREECE WITH SOME MORE PICS !! LOADS MORE  ;D HERES THE ASPROGIALI X GOELAND II HARD TO FIND HER BUT WITH A BIT OF A TREK HERE SHE IS
ANY INFO ON HER WOULD BE GREAT
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner August 23, 2010, 14:20:34
 :o Oh No More grey hairs I will be getting trying to identify you tugs  angry I wish I was there taking the photos   :)

Holidays or work related for you being back in Greece ?

Regards, Dan.

ps, Hope you enjoyed yourself (other than the obvious taking photos of tugs  ;) )
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros August 25, 2010, 13:06:18
Hi Peter, regarding ASPROGIALI we have written something in post #261.

 Regarding the G.AIVAZOGLOU. She is the 1977-built BURUTU SEAHORSE. She was renamed laer in 1987 ANTHOULA, in 1990 GIANNIS A. and the same year GIANNIS AYVAZOGLOU. She is one of the tugs of the defunct Portolos fleet.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co August 25, 2010, 14:11:16
hi aris
sorry i missed you our holidays overlapped
dan photos just hobby mate you really should go its a lovely place to visit and now is the time to go
regards
peter  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros September 06, 2010, 04:31:22
Hello everyone,

here are two somewhat recent shots:

The rather well known big tug MATSAS STAR which is based in  Lavrio, Attika
and the smaller CHRISTOS XVII which is based in Mykonos. She was build in 1960 and her previous name was EVEREST.

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: sea.mariner September 06, 2010, 05:21:53

and the smaller CHRISTOS XVII which is based in Mykonos.

Great photos, just a comment from me, are you sure the second tug isn't the CHRISTOS XVIII

Maybe you have made a typing error ?

Regards, Dan.

ps, looking forward to more photos  :)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros September 06, 2010, 23:24:07
You are aboslutely right, it is the XVIII.  :-[
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships September 11, 2010, 01:52:25
OK boys now that we have all had a holiday (although I feel like I need another one already ! ) lets get back to the serious business of Greek tugs - and the older the better !

First up MATSAS COSTAS   built as  ST-698

           CRETA SALVOR    ex WRESTLER (see posts 298-299).

           VERNICOS KITTY  alongside NAVARINO  Sept.1978 - a heavily cropped shot I know, but better than nothing.

           cheers, Peter.
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: Minotauros September 13, 2010, 13:13:10
Hi Peter, great to see TAKIS M II in her previous livery as CRETA SALVOR!

For MATSAS COSTAS, here is a short CV (hope I have not posted this before..)

Built 1944 by Equitable Equipment Co., Madisonville, Louisianna, as ST-698 for the US Army.
1948: Sold; renamed FIROE.
1963: Renamed CITTA DI AUGUSTA.
1976: Sold to Loucas G. Matsas & Sons and renamed MATSAS COSTAS.
1986: Renamed COSTAS.
1998: Scrapped.

Here are couple of shots that I took last week while on a trip to the northern port of Alexandroupoli.
Both tugs are owned by the local Chatzigavriil Tugs company.

First is the AETOS, more info here: http://www.chatzigavriil.gr/aetos.htm
with the defunct ferry SAMOTHRAKI next to her
and then the ASTERI (ex-MEGALOCHARI XII, ex-IRONSIDER, built 1967)
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: soiships September 14, 2010, 01:19:13
You sure get around Minotauros !
Interesting photos and to be honest I had not heard of Chatzigavriil before so thank you.

AETOS looks like a former WW II British TID tug and if I'm not mistaken is the former British tug BONCHURCH which I seen in Southampton in 1981.

Attached is the well known Tsavliris tug MEGAS ALEXANDROS in Eleusis Bay 10-1981 and two views of the Loucas G.Matsas tug ANEMOS leaving the Akti Miaouli, Piraeus on 5th Sept 1978.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships September 15, 2010, 11:02:02
OK then, let's try uploading these pics once again (for the third time !) .
If I can't do it properly this time I may have to do the unthinkable ............. i.e. read the instructions !
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: soiships September 17, 2010, 01:07:00
Aaaaah .....   success at last !

I believe ANEMOS was built in 1951 but unfortuneatly no other details.

And now, a collection of Petrola tugs with the lovely DIO closest to the camera, then TESSERA and two more yet to be identified.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros September 17, 2010, 13:57:12
Hi Peter, the lovely ANEMOS was indeed built in 1950 by Burmeister & Wain as DUITSLAND,
In 1955 she was renamed WESTERSCHELDE,
she was sold to Matsas in 1976 and renamed ANEMOS,
unfortunately her following story is unknown to me...
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: towrope September 18, 2010, 12:58:05
Hi there Minotauros is it possible that you have more photos of the megalohari XII as Iam thinking of building a model of the Ironsider and may build it as the Megalohari and have noticed quite a few changes to the tug from what it used to be like many thanks and all the best.
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: chipchase September 18, 2010, 13:12:08
Good choice towrope, she makes a fantastic model   
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: Cragsider September 18, 2010, 13:28:17
Good choice towrope, she makes a fantastic model   

Towrope, I can fully concur with chipchase, she does make a lovely model, a model developed and marketed here in the North East by a highly motivated and inovative firm, 'Tyne Models'.

Peter.

: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: chipchase September 18, 2010, 13:40:27
She certainly looks different in those colours Cragsider; I think she looks better in her proper colours. (Just call me old fashioned)  ;D ;D ;D ;D   
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: Cragsider September 19, 2010, 05:20:51
I have to agree with you there Chipchase, Tyne colours all the way, I just love to see that post-box red funnel topped with black-a propa Tyne Tug.

Talking of Funnels I see the exhaust stack has been extended out of the casing and curved aft, would there be any particular reason for doing this(apart from the obvious, preventing the Skipper being asphyxiated), maybe one of our Greek friends can give an answer, also why paint them white, is it the traditional Piraeus Tug colours or is it climate related?

Peter.
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: Minotauros September 20, 2010, 01:52:19
heres one for you both the phoenix or should i say foinix photo taken on the beautifull island of syros built in 1953 she looks great for her age x praia grande built portugal
i thought she maybe a brit but after digging for a while i found her  :)

Ηere is a photo of PHOENIX that I took at Neorion, Syros this week end.
A rather different design...
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros September 20, 2010, 01:55:43
Hi there Minotauros is it possible that you have more photos of the megalohari XII as Iam thinking of building a model of the Ironsider and may build it as the Megalohari and have noticed quite a few changes to the tug from what it used to be like many thanks and all the best.

Unfortunately she was in a position that did'nt helped for proper photos.
Here is another one, just in case you'll see some details that might help.

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: towrope September 20, 2010, 12:00:57
Many thanks Minotauros was hoping for some aft deck shots but any photo from any angle is a bonus great photos once again many thanks towrope.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros September 27, 2010, 10:12:57
A few shots from the port of Patras, a few weeks ago.
The tugs PATREUS, HERMES, and AMAZON assisting a tanker to berth,
and HERMES resting.


: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Minotauros October 03, 2010, 04:58:21
The tugs of Lyboussakis are nested together for this shot: HERCULES, ATLAS, TAXIARCHIS and to the right APOLLON which is apparently under refit.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: John Papanos October 18, 2010, 01:29:32
Hi everyone. Here are some of my pictures.
OΛΠ  Ρ/Κ 1  at 1963 when my father was her captain
and same man same boat 40 years later
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: John Papanos October 18, 2010, 02:01:38
Also that's my ΟΛΠ Ρ/Κ 1
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: davidships March 22, 2011, 15:23:57
Found this site to this morning when looking for a photo of NISOS HYDRA to help identify another photo (not mine, or I would add it here), and then spent the afternoon reading through this fascinating topic.  But then disappointed that it petered out last autumn - and just as a new member reminded us of that old chestnut - the original identity of OLP No.1.

I don't know whether Minotauros and Soiships are still around - "rea towing co" is, but maybe is a bit busy with his new 1:1 model.

Anyway, if there is still an appetite for more Greek tug talk, perhaps I can add the odd answer, and certainly ask some more questions.

So far as OLP No.1 is concerned, I have looked hard at available photos here and elsewhere.  But it seems to me that there is the vestige of a previous name on then starboard bow.  Look at two photos "Bow" and "Side" in the photos in Replies 288/289 below the white ventilator, partly obscured by the tyre lashing.  Looks like "H", and a bit further "I" or something similar.  Or is it just wishful-thinking?

The unidentified tug in Reply #66 could be ODYSSEAS 1 ex-NISTORESTI 2, built in China in 1980 and owned by Kritom Naftiki Eteria, Heraklion.

AGIOS NIKOLAOS at Reply #73 is ex-MADONNA ex-NISSOS KALAMOS ex-CHERRY ex-CHERRYGARTH

best wishes to all


David
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: davidships March 22, 2011, 15:50:08
Not far from Piraeus, some blow-ups from postcards of Corinth Canal's TITAN.  What did become of her?

105grt 70.1 x 19.4 x 8.8ft
blt 1917 de Groot & van Vliet, Slikkerveer
T3cy 44nhp Rotterdam Droogdok Maats.

1917 Nouvelle S.A. du Canal de Corinthe, Piraeus (GRC flag, reg Piraeus)
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: tugs53 March 22, 2011, 17:16:48
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-forum/welcome.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php) Aboard the Tug Forum davidships!!

Great pictures!!

When you get a chance, please add your location to your profile so we all know where you hail from.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: soiships May 23, 2011, 10:59:14
Almost my last word on this great topic ..........
SOTIRIOS ex EMPIRE PIPER at the breakers yard, Rafina in June 1984.
According to Harvey and Turrel in 'Empire Tugs' she was sold again and renamed LAVRION and not scrapped until 1987 - can any member confirm this ?

davidships, did you get my reply to your PM?
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: Roby May 24, 2011, 09:43:08
KARAPIPERIS 15 Ex HOLMSIDER    KARAPIPERIS 16 Ex SEASIDER   KARAPIPERIS III ExBAMBURGH
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: Roby May 24, 2011, 09:48:44
KARAPIPERIS 10 xEx HIBERNIA
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: thamestug July 07, 2011, 07:42:17
PIRAEUS 2011
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: tugs53 July 08, 2011, 17:49:21
Great Shots :) :)
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: Minotauros August 31, 2011, 06:44:22
Not far from Piraeus, some blow-ups from postcards of Corinth Canal's TITAN.  What did become of her?

Been away for a while, so here is a late reply although not really answers the question.
TITAN, requisitioned by the German forces, was torpedoed and sunk on 20/7/1944 by HMS VIVID a little after departing Monemvasia.
6 out of her crew of 8 Greeks perished.
Looking at the photos (the two first are from the 50s), it appears that she was raised postwar and refitted for Corinth Canal duties.
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: thamestug October 04, 2011, 07:36:35
IFESTOS 3. Piraeus 27-5-2011
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: thamestug October 04, 2011, 07:42:49
KARAPIPERIS II; Piraeus 5-2011
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: thamestug October 04, 2011, 07:44:13
KARAPIPERIS 14; Piraeus 5-2011
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: Aris1 June 01, 2014, 06:51:18
Not far from Piraeus, some blow-ups from postcards of Corinth Canal's TITAN.  What did become of her?

Been away for a while, so here is a late reply although not really answers the question.
TITAN, requisitioned by the German forces, was torpedoed and sunk on 20/7/1944 by HMS VIVID a little after departing Monemvasia.
6 out of her crew of 8 Greeks perished.
Looking at the photos (the two first are from the 50s), it appears that she was raised postwar and refitted for Corinth Canal duties.
Although it is mentioned in several sources, it is now most certain that it is not the whole truth because HMS VIVID was not near Monemvasia at that time.
TITAN might have sunk in shallow water 1941-44 but after the war she returned to service. In 1970 she went to Matsas Tugs and was renamed FOTINI M. She was scrapped in 1973 at Perama.

Here is another preww2 photo of her in the Canal
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: des June 07, 2014, 23:08:58
Hi to anyone monitoring this thread.

I am trying to trace 4 tugs, built in Adelaide, Australia in the 1960's, and which were sold to Corfu Shipping Company, Greece, in the 1970's.

The tugs I am trying to track are -

WARILLA, IMO 5386198, built in 1959, yard No.1;  transferred to Greece 1978;  renamed LEROS 1980.  GrossTonnage.com lists this vessel as "Dead", no date given, and last registered in Honduras.
 
KURNELL, IMO 5197999, built 1959, yard No.2;  transferred to Greece 1978;  renamed LESVOS;  last registered in St Vincent & Grenadines, and still listed as Active.  No details known regarding any further name changes.

WALANA, IMO 5385326, built 1960, yard No.5;  transferred to Greece 1978.  Greek registered name unknown.  Last registered in UAE as SEA STAR.  Still listed as Active (2013).

CAMP COVE, IMO 1968254, built 1965, yard No.25;  transferred to Greece 1978.  Greek registered name unknown.  No further details known, but there is a photo on ShipSpotters dated 2014 showing this tug, still as CAMP COVE, on Botany Bay (Sydney).  Unknown though if this is the date the photo was taken, or just the date the photo was posted online.

If anyone knows anything of the history of these tugs in Greece, or has any photos they would care to share, please drop me a p.m. via this forum.

Des.
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 14:52:02
hi folks
starting this old thread up again as lots has changed over in the med in the last few years so lots more oldies and some right up to date tugs
heres two old friends
the cosan 1 and the andreas l
one from london and one from the mersey
taken in limassol this year
peter
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 14:54:21
cosan 1 ex ????
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: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 14:55:57
Andreas L ex ????
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: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 14:57:39
cosan 1 again
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 15:00:27
and heres a new one at piraeus this year the panther z of zouros tugs a newcomer to piraeus
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 15:02:52
and here is the new leon of lybousakis tugs of perama an old japanese tug formerly owned by svitzer
taken in june this year
: Re: Piraeus 'Greek' Tugs
: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 15:04:20
leon again
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: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 15:06:35
christos xv11 leaving the piraeus main port another ex british tug
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: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 15:09:45
vernicos oceanos is also a newcomer to piraeus
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: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 15:12:06
karapiperis 15 still looking smart in piraeus roads june 2017
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: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 15:15:06
and the newly painted armadores ll still going strong but even she is outdated now
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: rea towing co November 05, 2017, 15:24:46
and the last for tonight the doxa an ex scottish tug working at kerkyra in corfu now for many years
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: sea monkey November 05, 2017, 21:48:04
Good work Peter.
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: model tugman November 05, 2017, 23:33:59
Cosan 1.  Ex JP Knight. Keverne. Built by Thornycroft, British Polar main engine.
Nice to see you back Pete.👍👍👍
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: rea towing co November 06, 2017, 14:46:07
cheers george , i see your building some lovely models again , fantastic
heres two of the agia marina in piraeus , she was the old alex tug trafalgar of liverpool
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: rea towing co November 06, 2017, 14:52:31
another one from our shores is the old portgarth seen here in liverpool in 1981 if i remember with her new name vernicos martha
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: rea towing co November 06, 2017, 15:31:11
one more for tonight , lybousakis tug atlas just off piraeus taken june this year ex united towing tug
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: meechingman November 10, 2017, 12:47:06
Portgarth was originally one of the two hydroconic hulled sisters, Clonmel and Cashel, built by Mitchison at Gateshead. Cashel, in fact. Became Portgarth and then sold to Greek owners and renamed Vernicos Martha and then Agios Nikolaos. Survived until February 2017, almost made it to 60!

Those hydroconic tugs from that era were clearly built to last!