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Specialist Types Of Tug Boat => Off Shore Support Vessels => : boatmadman November 04, 2012, 01:52:45

: BOURBON ORCA. A model
: boatmadman November 04, 2012, 01:52:45
Hi,
Thought I would post a couple of pics of my model Bourbon Orca.

I finished her a few months ago, the pics were taken at a local regatta in Sept.

Ian
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: tugboyben November 04, 2012, 02:15:49
WOW  cool cool cool cool
Very nice is the model built from plan's

Jason
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: Footski November 04, 2012, 02:17:53
Beautiful and worthy of it's own thread so I have split it for you. cool cool
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: zeevaart1 November 04, 2012, 04:38:38
That's a beautiful model, and nicely build. cool
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: boatmadman November 04, 2012, 04:38:49
Thanks guys.

There are no plans for this, I designed the hull on delftship and built the rest from photos.

There is, however, a fg hull based on this deign coming available in the near future.

Ian
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: tugnut November 04, 2012, 07:35:15
very nice build  cool cool
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: sea monkey November 06, 2012, 20:45:08
Looks great. Any more photos of the decks, motors, etc?
What size is it?
Steve
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: nhp651 November 07, 2012, 00:30:36
Thanks guys.

There are no plans for this, I designed the hull on delftship and built the rest from photos.

There is, however, a fg hull based on this deign coming available in the near future.

Ian
I saw a small hull of the X Bow on Clyde Model Ships stall at Blackpool last month, Ian..............is this the one you refer to.
neil.
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: boatmadman November 07, 2012, 09:15:04
Neil,
The plug for small one was cnc'd from my plans and produced as a check for the process. A larger one is in the pipeline.

Steve,
More pics posted, its about 42" long
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: boatmadman November 07, 2012, 09:17:49
more...
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: boatmadman November 07, 2012, 09:23:02
more..
and one of the purpose built transport and launch trolley
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: nhp651 November 09, 2012, 07:37:54
cheers steve........have watched your build on Mayhem throughout.......she is a real beauty......a long way from the day you came down to my workshop, lol...........if we'd have waited for plans from the company you'd have still been waiting to start the build........I never heard anything from them..............not even a "sorry, no can do".........totally ignorant of them I'm sorry to say..........but you proved that they can be built even without third party help.
Well done........a beautiful credit to you.
neil
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: boatmadman November 09, 2012, 09:34:13
Neil,

When someone says no, it drives the devil in me!

This time it worked!

Another example is this, not a tug, but something I designed and commissioned because I couldnt get plans. This will be a semi kit before long, and is about 700mm long.

Ian
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: VANYA November 09, 2012, 11:22:50
These are two very nice models of modern vessel and both are at the front of modern offshore craft.

Your combined skills of research and building are what it takes to make the impossible come to life and give so many other model makers pleasure in seeing something new on the water.

My opinion is that some of the modern vessels are actually becoming easier to build, especially if you can obtain some drawings, but due to the fact that the surfaces and lines are being  simplified in order to make  for the shipyards more efecent.Some may not agree they look nice,and in some respects I do not think they look nice either, but they are modern and give modellers a lot of new material to work with.

Can we please have some details of the offshore supply vessel. Is it a Damen design??


Look forward to your future projects.

Hayden

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: boatmadman November 09, 2012, 13:33:46
Hi,

Funnily enough, while I was building the Orca, my family nicknamed it 'the ugly boat' 'cos it sure aint pretty! But, its function over form, which appeals to me.

I have scratch built many boats of different types, and the Orca was easily the hardest hull to get right due to the curves at the bow.

I am not entirely sure of the Orca designers, but I think it was Damen. The sea axe is a Damen design and is being used for a wide variety of applications, from fast crew launch to superyacht tender.
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: chipchase November 09, 2012, 14:34:54
I think you did a fantastic job on your Bourbon Orca Ian and followed your build from start to finish.  cool I also liked the look of Peterís build of the Ulstein AX102, so I managed to get one of the hulls that are supplied by Clyde Model Boats and try to alter the hull to make the AX102. Here are three photos showing the stern and the port side.
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: boatmadman November 10, 2012, 01:02:04
That looks a nice conversion, hope to be able to watch the build progress.

There are a number of different applications the basic hull form can be used for/adapted to.

Ian
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: CMB November 17, 2012, 16:45:18

 Clyde Model Boats and try to alter the hull to make the AX102. Here are three photos showing the stern and the port side.

A fantastic job you have done Brian make no mistake!


Unfortunately the sale did not come directly trough Clyde Model Boats but through the hull supplier we were using at the time.

I was not made aware of the sale until a few days ago ...long story short .. you received a first run hull, faults and all.

As Ian (The designer & to whom we pay a commission to use the design)  is aware we have reworked / CNC cut a new plug for this hull and my lawyer is primed and will actively pursue any copies or adaption of the old hull.

As only 2 (or three if you include Brian's hull) were sold from the original master and we have the original CAD & foam masters we can easily identify who & where the hulls originate from.

To buy this hull from now on will be a breach of copyright and will be pursued vigorously.

That said a more accurate & legitimate hull is available direct from Clyde Model Boats.

Regards,
Kim MacLean.
Clyde Model Boats
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: CapnTroy November 17, 2012, 18:46:21
Hello Kim,

I'm having trouble navigating around your website, getting a lot of "404 - File or directory not found" when I click on items, is your site having issues or do I just suck at interwebs...?

Troy
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: boatmadman November 17, 2012, 23:48:30
Hi Troy,

I just tried the CMB website and it loaded ok, maybe it was getting an update when you tried.

Ian
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: VANYA November 18, 2012, 15:29:07
CMB,
Have CMB or there agents been assigned the rights to sell a commercial version of the Ulstein design, be it the actual design as per the ships lines drawing or there interpretation anyway.

 I think we have been here before with operators making revenue out of commercial designs ( aka Robert Allan) be they approved or not. Surely in the first instance have you got the licence to even copy or interperate the X-Hull for it appears your sole financial gain.

Surly you should have crossed your T's and dotted your I's before venturing forth so that everyone is clear about where they stand on trademark, copyright issues.

Are there any copyright issues attached to this project??

It should be the previous hull moulder that stands to cope the flack not the model builder and if you did not ensure the moulder returned the mould to you then I do not see anyone  else to blame except yourselves.

It is really a case of protecting intellectual property.

My two cents.

VANYA




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: CMB November 19, 2012, 00:04:37
CMB,




Surly you should have crossed your T's and dotted your I's before venturing forth so that everyone is clear about where they stand on trademark, copyright issues.

It is really a case of protecting intellectual property.

My two cents.

VANYA

I appreciate your concern, i did do my homework prior to doing this project.

Regards the web site, we have concentrated on development work and shows this year and will try our best to get the website  updated for the new year.
Regards,
Kim
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: VANYA November 19, 2012, 13:30:27
CMB,

That is good to hear.

Every project these days is prone to being pirated and I know of model boat projects that have been bought under the guise of a sale by a distributor and the item is then found to have been replicated back in the market, made in a particular East Asian country.

Sort of curtails the desire to make things and place them in the market.

Hoping to look at your website too.

Rgds.
VANYA