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: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 January 08, 2013, 08:16:05
 :-[ :-[
Hi all here's one for you and I am NOT swearing, do you know the meaning of the word S.H.I.T have a guess and see if you get it right, it is a real old meaning.
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: Footski January 08, 2013, 09:14:47
Erm, now excuse me, but that is rude!!!!!  >:D >:D >:D >:D

Having been reminded of their lack of use, here is the first yellow card of 2013!!!!! :P :P :P

Any way, does anyone know the answer????
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: donald.waller1 January 08, 2013, 09:27:45
 :P :P :P :P :P
Excuse me I do not wish to be rude, I do not deserve the YELLOW CARD IT IS A REAL TERM.
It mean's "STORE HIGH IN TRANSIT", it was used many year's ago when ship's carried a cargo's that could not be stowed on the deck of the hold due to them getting wet with sea water and causing an explosion, hence the above word meaning.
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: Footski January 08, 2013, 10:27:59
Oh dear never mind......Yellow cards , just like in soccer, cannot be rescinded!!!!!!

Enjoy the glory... :D :D :D
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: tugs53 January 08, 2013, 12:47:29
I guess S__T really does happen :D
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: Model Tug Man January 08, 2013, 13:03:27
Good one, Mike.

Maybe Barry should get a yellow card for having a dirty mind.

Anyone know what "balls to the wall" means???

No, Barry. It is not dirty--please keep your yellow cards, for now anyway.
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: Footski January 08, 2013, 13:12:03
Good one, Mike.

Maybe Barry should get a yellow card for having a dirty mind.

Anyone know what "balls to the wall" means???

No, Barry. It is not dirty--please keep your yellow cards, for now anyway.

Sorry, but attempts to get a fellow member a yellow card is an offence under Footski's Code of conduct......Consider one issued. >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

I am enjoying this! ho ho

I feel refreshed..... :P :P
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: tugs53 January 08, 2013, 13:17:35
Anyone know what "balls to the wall" means???


I'm scared to ask......
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: russellward January 08, 2013, 15:49:09
I guess S__T really does happen :D
I prefer to use ships happen in mixed company!
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: russellward January 08, 2013, 15:54:52
Anyone know what "balls to the wall" means???


I'm scared to ask......
I know what "balls out" means....
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: russellward January 08, 2013, 15:59:23
Point of order, Admiral.
"Balls to the wall" is an aviation term and should therefore be struck from the record stat!
This full freedom of movement in three dimensions is not for us diehard mariners!
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: CGAux26 January 08, 2013, 18:42:34
Like russellward said.  And per Urban Dictionary:

a term used by pilots. when accelerating quickly, the throttle is pushed all the way to the panel and the throttle lever (ball) actually touches the panel (wall). Hence, balls to the wall.

"Balls out," as I know it refers to the old flyball speed governors found on steam turbines.  As the turbine speed is raised the flyballs lift farther from center until at maximum speed they are "balls out." 

Do I get a yellow card, Footski?   angel
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: russellward January 08, 2013, 21:07:59
Arrrgh! Me hearty, full marks!
A slight addendum to your observation on Watt type governors. They were common in the steam age (which hasn't finished yet you mark my words. Internal combustion won't catch on. Ahem excuse me don't start me off). Also featured on most traction engines and road locomotives. Also (strangely enough on the gorgeous Atlas Imperial engines in our wartime YTL tugs. The camshaft had a Watt's type governor which limits the lift of the injector (sprayer valve) and hence the power output and revs. (They had common rail injection -the engine is a 1918 design. You know the sort of modern fitting on diesels that Honda were claiming as a recent innovation).
But I digress -a feature of old age and a nice gin at the end of the day!
I have attached a recent pic of a local beam engine (now unique to NZ) which shows the Watts governor distinctly balls in. As she revs up to her working speed of 16 rpm the balls swing out and a linkage you can see in the pic operates a butterfly valve in the steam line. Any increase throttles the steam and she slows to her allotted speed.
The speed limit is set by the engineer using a lever on the linkage.
Hoping that you are all now up to speed.
Please use "Balls out" in all conversations possible to offend those possessing naughty easily offended minds where possible. You know who it is I am referring to.
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: Footski January 08, 2013, 23:31:31
"Please use "Balls out" in all conversations possible to offend those possessing naughty easily offended minds where possible. You know who it is I am referring to."

I resemble that remark.....A more open minded chap you will never find!! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

As for CGAux26.......No, no yellow card for such a well explained definition...... ;) ;)
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: russellward January 08, 2013, 23:48:15
Ah, re reading my remark, the naughty easily offended minds is a contradiction and needs amending. I guess I should strike the naughty. We may possess such thoughts, but those who are easily offended are unlikely to. Sorry.
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: Model Tug Man January 09, 2013, 04:20:04
Point of order, Admiral.
"Balls to the wall" is an aviation term and should therefore be struck from the record stat!
This full freedom of movement in three dimensions is not for us diehard mariners!

So you endeavor to exclude our brothers who wear the dolphins?
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: donald.waller1 January 09, 2013, 08:17:06
 angry angry angry angry :P :P :P :P
Not fair Footski I want my yellow card taken back or I will throw my toy's out of my pram, I gave a very good reason for what I put, and thank's for the fame. LOL
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: Footski January 09, 2013, 08:51:57
Calm down Donald!!!!! angel angel angel angel angel angel

As you know, yellow cards cannot be rescinded.... :( :( :(

As for your quotation.....well I have heard better excuses from children caught swearing at Sunday school.... :) :) :) :)
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: russellward January 09, 2013, 09:34:27
Point of order, Admiral.
"Balls to the wall" is an aviation term and should therefore be struck from the record stat!
This full freedom of movement in three dimensions is not for us diehard mariners!

So you endeavor to exclude our brothers who wear the dolphins?
Gee golly gosh! Well no uh sorta kinda ummm.
Not my call, admiral: I'm lower decks. I knows me place.
Just taking the peace(!) as always
Yours aye!
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: donald.waller1 January 09, 2013, 09:50:12
 cool cool cool cool
Dear Footski I am now very calmed down, toy's now back in pram and the wife's cooking my dinner which I will have a glass of Scotch.
Thank's for the yellow card I have never been booked before even in my amateur football career. angel angel angel
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: russellward January 09, 2013, 09:52:18
I'd join you but sun's not over the yardarm here yet!
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: russellward January 09, 2013, 10:16:58
Mind you, the glass looks a bit dodgy and going higher.
And you can't argue with facts like that!
Cheers. Well maybe a bit later...
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: Footski January 09, 2013, 11:00:22
cool cool cool cool
Dear Footski I am now very calmed down, toy's now back in pram and the wife's cooking my dinner which I will have a glass of Scotch.
Thank's for the yellow card I have never been booked before even in my amateur football career. angel angel angel

Donald,

That is a good idea. I think I will have one too and drink to your health! ho ho
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: donald.waller1 January 09, 2013, 11:39:50
 :-* :-* :-*
Thank you Footski and I will drink your good health to my friend, good job we can have a laugh in life, other wise it would be boring.
Thank's to every one for joining the laugh especaily those on my side. LOL
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: CGAux26 January 09, 2013, 15:24:10
Why was my post on this deleted??
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: Footski January 09, 2013, 23:45:00
Why was my post on this deleted??

What a terrible and unfounded accusation to make. Your post is still where it was when you posted it....ON PAGE ONE!  :D :D :D

That's another Yellow card for false allegations..... >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

Must be a record. That is three yellows on one thread..... :P :P :P :P :P :P
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: russellward January 10, 2013, 00:36:31
Times like that, I just plead to the whirrled in general and the kids in particular that I am elderly and confused (even though neither is the case in fact -well maybe slightly).
Seems to get me by with some degree of dignity!
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: Model Tug Man January 10, 2013, 04:28:49
Who's that in the picture, Russ? Your son???

 :)
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: Footski January 10, 2013, 06:24:14
Oh dear me.....a good one there!! :) :)
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: Model Tug Man January 10, 2013, 06:54:26
Good thing Russ doesn't hand out yellow cards.
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: donald.waller1 January 10, 2013, 08:36:27
 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Come on Footski, Model Tug Man should get a yellow card for AGEISIM. LOL
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: russellward January 10, 2013, 09:02:05
Nope, that's Argus Tuft himself fresh from a 60 km drive of a 7 hp Burrell from Feilding up and over the hill to Wanganui! Taken by one of the attendent paparazzi with a wide angled lens a couple of feet in front of me. Which accounts for my stunnng good looks and youthful countenance.
I tell yer, we were all futterly ucked and thirsty that day.
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: Footski January 10, 2013, 10:34:35
>:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
Come on Footski, Model Tug Man should get a yellow card for AGEISIM. LOL

Donald,

Two yellows in the same thread means an automatic red!!!! :o :o :o :o

I've only ever issued one of those and it wasn't pretty.... :-[ :-[
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: donald.waller1 January 10, 2013, 12:27:15
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Footski does that mean I have two yellow's now that has turned to red, so that mean's I have been sent off ? :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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: Footski January 10, 2013, 12:44:32
 :P :P :P :P :P :P :PNah, I am in a good mood.. :P :P :P :P :P
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: Model Tug Man January 10, 2013, 13:05:18
Anyone know the meaning of "yellow card"?

 :P :P :P :P :-\ :-\
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: CGAux26 January 10, 2013, 16:49:23
OT:  OK, one more attempt to earn a yellow card:  What goes in hard and dry and comes out wet and soft?
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Chewing gum.  :P  angel
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: russellward January 10, 2013, 17:01:44
Poor Don, only seems like a week or so that he was welcomed back to the fold after a operation. And about to be sent off. Tch.
BTW I have attached a pic of the distinctly balls in Watt's governor driven off the camshaft of a 320 hp at 240 rpm Atlas Imperial diesel as fitted to the NZ tug "James O'Brien" ex "Kawateri". This is the last 75' YTL steel tug in NZ built by NZ for the US in WW2. We had a discussion on these lovely ships in Classic Diesel tugs.
Treasure this memory and tell your grand children as they look up to you with admiration in their eyes. There are not many living people who have got on their knees and cast their eyes on this little gem buried in the crankcase.
Ahem. On your side, Don
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: russellward January 10, 2013, 17:20:48
In my alter ego of Argus Tuft (the man who got the most yellow cards from the judge for contempt of court), I propose we start a new thread yclept "Crusty's Corner".
A subset of the Pub Corner, Crusty's Corner has no topic and would cater for rambling abusive, abrasive, rude b*st*rds who get seriously off the topic of the discussion and just post rude jokes. Use of obscure English words is encouraged -but no naughty words or it will be a spanking.
This will keep them off serious discussions on making tug models and real tugs etc.
Back to the subject at hand.
While we are on balls, a new term for discussion suggested by my daughter.

What is the meaning of  "Up to the balls"?
She didn't tell me, I'd like to know. I don't think it's airforce or maybe it is.
Enough to freeze the brass off a bald monkey.
Message ends. Out and standing by.
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: russellward January 10, 2013, 17:57:05
Please advise. Is is acceptable to transfer a metaphorical spanking (AKA a Yellow Card) to the person who told the expression?
Flailing that, can I plead being Elderly and Confused?
Argus
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: Model Tug Man January 11, 2013, 04:31:22
I usually plead that I have been smoking crack with the former DC mayor.
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: Model Tug Man January 11, 2013, 04:44:40
What about this Governor?
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: Footski January 11, 2013, 05:31:27
OT:  OK, one more attempt to earn a yellow card:  What goes in hard and dry and comes out wet and soft?

 angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

Yellow card duly issued. We have standards you know! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\


A yellow card is a formal warning of a persons behavior, done in a friendly sporting kind of way. A RED card is not so nice, resulting in a ban from the fun!!! angel angel angel
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: Footski January 11, 2013, 05:37:05
Please advise. Is is acceptable to transfer a metaphorical spanking (AKA a Yellow Card) to the person who told the expression?
Flailing that, can I plead being Elderly and Confused?
Argus


Most certainly not Sir.......Ashamed of you for such a suggestion. Take responsibility for your own actions.. angry angry angry angry angry angry.

Almost another yellow there!! :P :P
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: TugMaster January 11, 2013, 09:06:38
Easy now !!
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: thelongbuild January 11, 2013, 10:17:34
I having been watching this thread and I Take it that this thread is all tongue in cheek ?, If not,  if a Yellow card has been issued and then the thread allowed to continue by the yellow card issuer then said issuer of yellow card in fact should also be issued a yellow card and should in fact not be moderating this particular thread as they have themselves sanctioned the thread by allowing its continuation and joined in so are no longer in a position to moderate said thread..
If this thread re yellow, red and pink poka dot cards is genuine , Can I remind people that this forum was started as a separate forum to another because of such alleged moderation I seem to remember from that forum.

Happy New Year !!! :'(
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: russellward January 11, 2013, 11:32:59
Stand to attention, there and no talking in the ranks. Wipe that smile off yer face my young sir, or I'll wipe it off for you!
Point taken. As I understand it, this thread was started as an academic effort to clarify some of the more obscure quotes that we drop into our conversation. This is a very English language thing -and look where it got us.
So, we seem to have a couple of quotes that need sorting. One -a four letter word as all the good ones-  I am very familiar with now that daughter 5 month grandson is with us overnight. I am not sure it really refers to cargo stowage. I think it is probably more to do with having a morning blow down (steaming term).
The other also deals (on the surface of it) with an anatomical situation wherein he who finds himself in that position has few options. I respect the input of the seers.
Standing by for the next salvo regarding the inner meaning of this thread.
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: thelongbuild January 11, 2013, 11:53:49
Stand to attention, there and no talking in the ranks. Wipe that smile off yer face my young sir, or I'll wipe it off for you!

Excuse me I have 4 pips to your 3 , now off you go and scrub the heads  :P
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: Footski January 11, 2013, 11:59:02
I having been watching this thread and I Take it that this thread is all tongue in cheek ?, If not,  if a Yellow card has been issued and then the thread allowed to continue by the yellow card issuer then said issuer of yellow card in fact should also be issued a yellow card and should in fact not be moderating this particular thread as they have themselves sanctioned the thread by allowing its continuation and joined in so are no longer in a position to moderate said thread..
If this thread re yellow, red and pink poka dot cards is genuine , Can I remind people that this forum was started as a separate forum to another because of such alleged moderation I seem to remember from that forum.

Happy New Year !!! :'(

Not too sure I fully understand all this, but the bottom line is.....A YELLOW CARD TO FOOTSKI!........That's a first.. ??? ??? ???
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: russellward January 11, 2013, 12:07:30
Stand to attention, there and no talking in the ranks. Wipe that smile off yer face my young sir, or I'll wipe it off for you!

Excuse me I have 4 pips to your 3 , now off you go and scrub the heads  :P
Scrubbed 'em, surrr! The hands had good aim this morning, makes life easier, surr.
Now, I wonders. Why wuz they called "Heads"?
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: thelongbuild January 11, 2013, 12:13:42
Thank Gawd for that as I thought I was about to be sent to bring the bucket for you to mop to the heads as Footski has 5 pips to my 4 and your 3, Can we combine them so we have 7 to Footski's s 5  ;D

"Heads" yes Why !! Heads, nothing to do with Bulk -"Head" is it ?.

Also just in case, should point out I don't like yellow, a Burnt Orange is more my Colour.. angel

Love Google

Head (ship's toilet)


The use of the term "head" to refer to a ship's toilet dates to at least as early as 1708, when Woodes Rogers (English privateer and Governor of the Bahamas) used the word in his book, A Cruising Voyage Around the World. Another early usage is in Tobias Smollett's novel of travel and adventure, Roderick Random, published in 1748. "Head" in a nautical sense referring to the bow or fore part of a ship dates to 1485. The ship's toilet was typically placed at the head of the ship near the base of the bowsprit, where splashing water served to naturally clean the toilet area.

Other maritime uses of the term refer to the top or forward part, such as the mast (top of the mast/masthead), and the top edge of a sail, as well as the compass direction in which the ship is pointing, etc

http://www.history.navy.mil/trivia/trivia03-2.htm

Thought they said "Never pee into the wind" !!
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: russellward January 11, 2013, 12:47:39
When I was young, (going back a bit this one) I was rambling round the Auckland wharves when I should have been in school getting what they call an education (haw haw!). There was a fishing boat of Brittany origins which had been brought over to NZ by some dreamer who then couldn't get her through survey. The parts of her that didn't resemble corn husks had the consistency of tinned pears.
I was intrigued to see that the only concession to the crew's comfort and meditation was an 18" wide two inch thick plank which projected aft from the taffrail (now there's another one. Why wuz it called that?) or counter (what is the origin of counter?). It was painted flakey old paint white like the rest of the hull and the part at the outboard end was worn smooth and slightly form fitting to make it easier to get a grip between the thighs. There was a copper funnel recessed into the top.
Now was that still a head do you think? Would certainly have been a bidet when she was in a following sea!
Wouldn't pass muster these days. But what a way to spend a peaceful moment or two of conjecture of a morning! 
Beats having to get down on all fours with spanners and screwdrivers and four letter words to clear a valve in an old pump action head which has got itself blocked. Probably after some overnight visitor has stuffed too much bumf (where did that one come from) down it.  Happy daze!
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: russellward January 11, 2013, 13:23:43
Thank Gawd for that as I thought I was about to be sent to bring the bucket for you to mop to the heads as Footski has 5 pips to my 4 and your 3, Can we combine them so we have 7 to Footski's s 5  ;D

"Heads" yes Why !! Heads, nothing to do with Bulk -"Head" is it ?.

Also just in case, should point out I don't like yellow, a Burnt Orange is more my Colour.. angel

Love Google

Head (ship's toilet)


The use of the term "head" to refer to a ship's toilet dates to at least as early as 1708, when Woodes Rogers (English privateer and Governor of the Bahamas) used the word in his book, A Cruising Voyage Around the World. Another early usage is in Tobias Smollett's novel of travel and adventure, Roderick Random, published in 1748. "Head" in a nautical sense referring to the bow or fore part of a ship dates to 1485. The ship's toilet was typically placed at the head of the ship near the base of the bowsprit, where splashing water served to naturally clean the toilet area.

Other maritime uses of the term refer to the top or forward part, such as the mast (top of the mast/masthead), and the top edge of a sail, as well as the compass direction in which the ship is pointing, etc

http://www.history.navy.mil/trivia/trivia03-2.htm

Thought they said "Never pee into the wind" !!
Crusty is contemplating the wisdom of the admiral introducing a Brown Card. This is specifically for officers and crew who openly quote from online reference sources. Crusty expects crewmates to be subtle. Well maybe not so subtle if the circumstances are propitious.
Seeking  discussion on the possibility of a Brown Card if you please.
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: Footski January 11, 2013, 14:11:08
Ang on a mo........Got enough on our plates with two coloured cards......No room for a third.... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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: Todd January 12, 2013, 05:51:56
THE HEADs

Quote"Other maritime uses of the term refer to the top or forward part, such as the mast (top of the mast/masthead), and the top edge of a sail, as well as the compass direction in which the ship is pointing, etc"unQuote

In the use of the term 'the head' when describing the masthead I would normally use the word 'truck' when referring to the head of the mast.(The bearing through which the top halyard runs...usually also classed as the highest point of the vessel.)
In the use of the term in regard to the compass when asked "where is your head ?" it would be normal to give a reply as to the compass point to which your vessel is heading and therefore can be classed as an abbreviation.

 :o    :o    :(

Jim
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: donald.waller1 January 12, 2013, 09:22:00
 :P :P :P :P
Point of order, a BUCKET in the navy is known as a FANNY no yellow card this time me think's.
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: donald.waller1 January 12, 2013, 09:50:40
 :P :P :P :P :P
Just a quick point of order for Mr. Russellward:- the meaning of my original word is" CORRECT", it has nothing to do with steaming down etc. it mean's Store High In Transit, it was some thing to do with a cargo that gave off  gas when mixed with water or sea water, thus causing the cargo ship to explode and sink.
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: russellward January 12, 2013, 10:41:03
Hence the shouted term *poo* when the crew were being flung up into the air by the explosion.
All is revealed!
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: thelongbuild January 12, 2013, 10:41:53
cargo that gave off  gas when mixed with water or sea water, thus causing the cargo ship to explode and sink.

Never a good thing  :o
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: TugMaster January 14, 2013, 04:32:30
Come on then, back to the essence of this thread .... "Do you know the meaning ?"

A shot across the bows
 
All at sea
 
Anchors aweigh
 
Batten down the hatches
 
Between the Devil and the deep blue sea
 
Broad in the beam
 
By and large
 
Chock-a-block
 
Close quarters
 
Copper-bottomed
 
Cut and run
 
Edging forward
 
Fathom out
 
Full to the gunwales
 
Get underway
 
Give a wide berth
 
Go by the board
 
Hand over fist
 
Hard and fast
 
High and dry
 
In the offing
 
Know the ropes
 
Loose cannon

On your beam ends
 
Panic stations
 
Plain sailing
 
Push the boat out
 
Shipshape and Bristol fashion
 
Shake a leg
 
Shiver my timbers
 
Slush fund
 
Taken aback
 
Tell it to the marines
 
The bitter end
 
The cut of your jib
 
Three sheets to the wind
 
Tide over
 
Walk the plank
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: meechingman January 15, 2013, 01:38:43
OK, here are a couple, then.

Bitter End, the fixed (hopefully!!) end of the anchor chain in the chain locker.

Copper Bottomed. Our 'hearts of oak' ships of yore were sheathed in copper below the water line.
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: Model Tug Man January 15, 2013, 04:48:46
Chock-a-block:

When hauling on a block and tackle and the blocks come together.

Loose cannon:

Back in the "hearts of oak" days, again:

When a ship-o-the-line is pitching and rolling and a cannon breaks free from it's lashings and goes rolling about the deck causing damage and a threat to life and limb.

Taken aback:

Aboard a sailing vessel when the wind changes direction enough to oppose the set of the sails, the ship is taken aback.
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: donald.waller1 January 15, 2013, 07:00:17
Here's a couple from me,

HAND OVER FIST:- To pull rope's Quickly & Continuously ie:- as you pull on a rope your making a fist and the open hand crosses over the closed fist.

SHOT ACROSS THE BOWS :-

A shot across the bow's was done to any ship not flying it's national flag or colour's, it was a warning shot to any ship so that it's colour's and nationality could be ascertained according to the law of the sea.
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: Model Tug Man January 15, 2013, 07:26:54
Donald must be pulling on the bell "rope".
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: russellward January 15, 2013, 08:40:28
On with the good behaviour. Good on yer Don!

Shiver my timbers: I was always led to believe it was when the ship shook when hitting a hefty sea. Can be alarming at times especailly if on is uncertain as to how well the timbers of the ship are held together.
One can also shiver the headsails by luffing up.
Now a quick check, shiver in some parts of the Engrish speaking world can mean "splinter" so go figure
Anyone got a memory of what Bitts came from?
Yrs aye.
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: russellward January 15, 2013, 08:42:20
OK, here are a couple, then.

Bitter End, the fixed (hopefully!!) end of the anchor chain in the chain locker.

Copper Bottomed. Our 'hearts of oak' ships of yore were sheathed in copper below the water line.
I had a faint feeling that "copper bottomed" also meant that the ship (or whatever) was a cut above the usual run of the mill ship.
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: russellward January 15, 2013, 08:57:03
On yer beam ends: refers to the ship being pushed over on her side -strong wind too much canvas.
literally you are in a spot of bother and not going anywhere good in a hurry. The deck beams end at the ship's side and you are on them. You are definitely <stowed high in transit> out of luck. Hard  up.

Broad beamed. Had several girlfriends that were a bit over engineered in the backside but preferred the  skinny ones that didn't take up to much room in the focsle.
Ahem, sorry crewmates, there I go again.
Means the ship has a good wide beam. Again the deck beams are long I guess.

Slush fund: Came upon this one a phew days ago. The meat in casks had a lot of fat on the top to preserve it and the grease was collected by some notable on board (the cook?) and flogged off in port; proceeds being added to the ship's "slush fund "which was used to buy little extras.
Now used more by politicians and bankers who have a cache of dosh that they have accumulated in their tradings that they can use when the <stowed high in transit> hits the fan. Or even before that eventality maybe.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 January 15, 2013, 09:33:29
 :) :)
Devil & Deep Blue Sea:- The Devil was the longest seam in a ship running from stem to stern, if the seam had to be re sealed at sea a sailor was hung over the side in a postion that was between THE DEVIL and THE SEA.

Slush Fund:- Slush was saved by the ship's cook and eventually sold.

Turn a Blind Eye:- Nelson put a telescope to his blind eye delberatley at the battle of Copenhagen so as not to see a signalled order sent by the admiral of the fleet.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man January 15, 2013, 09:43:50
Broad beamed. Had several girlfriends that were a bit over engineered in the backside but preferred the  skinny ones that didn't take up to much room in the focsle.

Actually, this refers to a wide transom. A woman possessing one can cause trim problems while aboard.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 January 15, 2013, 10:12:31
 angry angry angry angry angry

Model Tug Man should get a YELLOW CARD for being sexist, I was thinking that about my wife when she bend's over, but I did not put it.? lol

 angel angel angel angel angel
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man January 15, 2013, 11:32:32
Go ahead, throw me under the bus. Won't be my first time there.

 :P
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward January 15, 2013, 21:47:40
See you and raise you one, Tug Man! I am not convinced broad-beamed pertains just to the arsend of the ship. The choices are herring gutted ranging through to broad-beamed. I still maintain it refers to the overal burdensome rather than graceful nature of the ship.
I have attached a picture of my little steamer "Romany" with two fans (!) looking on admiringly. None has a broad beam, and the three transoms are extremely shapely. Enlarge at your leisure (the picture I mean....)
Back to the Nautical Terms b4 I get a yeller card.
Not sure about "Shake a Leg" (in NZ it's rattle yer dags, mate). I know it means get a wriggle on or get moving but the origin I am not sure.
"Show a leg" was a naughty custom of horizontal refreshment (Gen Monty's term) for the crew. A married man with his wife in the scratcher was allowed extra time at wakey wakey and his missus had to poke a leg out of the cot to show he was on the job!
Just trying to please, Admiral.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Footski January 15, 2013, 23:59:57
That is a beautiful stern!.......No seriously I m sorry to have to demand more photos of that lovely little steamer. Details, we want details.....not that I am jealous you understand.. ::) ::) ::)
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward January 16, 2013, 00:35:10
Ah well. "Romany" was launched in 1994 very traditionally built -a real Cape Horner. She has a coal fired fire tube boiler providing steam for a 3 x 4 single cyl engine. Goes well and is a source of great joy.
She was built by a proper boatbuilder who had been really inspired by a previous steamer I had "Gypsy" that was launched in '87. Unfortunately he fell terminally ill before he could finish her and when I went to see him, the family decided I should take her over and finish her. The price was more than I could afford but ships happen. I had a boiler and engine takin up space in the shed and she came together quite easily though I had to get an old boatbuilder to finish the details.
Look at www.steam.co.nz if you can be bothered.

To get back to serous meanings of life and the universe:
To fathom out (something).
I was told sometime ago it was like "sounding out" something. ie getting a handle on its depth.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: PHILNZ January 16, 2013, 02:15:10
Ahhh Broad beamed girls .

I have known that as a quarter acre in the back yard!!!  and if they wear adidas track pants with 3 stripes , will say no more than a white picket fence .
 thats Land lubbour terms.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 January 16, 2013, 03:35:34
 angry angry angry

Me think's a double yellow card is on it's way very soon as we are going off the subject again. Point of order. lol
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man January 16, 2013, 05:27:42
Ahhh Broad beamed girls .

I have known that as a quarter acre in the back yard!!!  and if they wear adidas track pants with 3 stripes , will say no more than a white picket fence .
 thats Land lubbour terms.

"Something you could hang on to and smack with a car antenna?"
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 January 16, 2013, 06:35:19
 :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

FOOTSKI O FOOTSKI WHERE FOR ART THOU FOOKSKI WHEN YELLOW CARD'S NEED TO BE HANDED OUT FOR RUDENESS !!!! lol.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Footski January 16, 2013, 07:03:14
Oh dear me, I am like a football referee, trying to sort out a brawl and not knowing who to show the cards to...... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

I know, I will award a yellow card to everyone who has contributed to this thread and in the cold light of day, consider any appeals!!!!!! :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man January 16, 2013, 08:16:25
That sure is a dandy little steamer. Enjoyed the pics.

 cool
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 January 16, 2013, 08:35:54
 angry angry angry angry

OFF SIDE MODEL TUG MAN no groveling to the REF RED CARD CALLED FOR !!!. lol
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: Model Tug Man January 16, 2013, 12:39:08
angry angry angry angry

OFF SIDE MODEL TUG MAN no groveling to the REF RED CARD CALLED FOR !!!. lol


So Russ, when did you become a Moderator????????
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward January 16, 2013, 14:30:13
Don't think I am or ever can be: Insufficient intellect and discrimination! Elderly and confuscerated.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man January 16, 2013, 16:34:24
You should fit right in.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward January 16, 2013, 19:17:06
So kind!
But I think one should have a heap more seniority before one would seek to stand in judgement .
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man January 17, 2013, 12:42:01
Let us not forget the term:

Bulk Under Larboard Lastage - Ship High In Transit!!!

 angel angel angel angel angel angel
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 January 21, 2013, 07:32:29
 >:D >:D >:D >:D

Model Tug Man Nearly a BROWN CARD given, but because I am in a good mood I won't.

Here's one then Folk's Do you know the meaning of an "AIRDALE" (No not the dog) and my second is "BARBETTE" both naval slang word's.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward January 21, 2013, 08:34:57
I'll give up easily and bow to superior intelligence. I am not risking a brownie and have not referred to Google yet.
We had an Airdale terrier named Fergus. Delightful good tempered dog unless there was a stray cat he didn't know around. But as you say it doesn't refer to him.
Barbette is the armouring round the bottom of a gun turret, I think. So drawing on my time in the Andrew, this term might relate to a short skirt or to the lady wearing it.
I've usually been more respectful.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man January 22, 2013, 05:26:10
Having recently purchased a copy of Classics by Ivor Wilkins I was thumbing through the pages before getting down to some serious reading and what did I find???? There in all her glory, on a 2 page spread was Russ' steam launch, Romany. And, I would assume, our own Captain Russell Ward at the tiller. It is a beautiful picture of the boat and a fine book. Mr. Wilkins definately "gets it".       
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward January 22, 2013, 09:53:47
A fine book. Yep, that is "Romany" in all her glory. Better looking than her owner. There are several closeups of her if you search  -I can be seen doing some boiler adjustments in one of them I think. Also the stunning picture at the front of "Janice" was taken at St Arnauds in Nelson -Lake Rotoiti. That was not long after I finished her in 2007. Someone saw her there and had to have her. She is a little honey of a boat.
You see, 25 years back, I really just got fed up with small models and saw steamboats as a model you could ride on and have fun. I may be doing a reversal on this opinion and going back to small ones!
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward January 31, 2013, 21:03:41
Ahhh Broad beamed girls .

I have known that as a quarter acre in the back yard!!!  and if they wear adidas track pants with 3 stripes , will say no more than a white picket fence .
 thats Land lubbour terms.
Now this discussion was getting somewhere. I'd hate for it to fizzle our with a whimper. At least let it be with a festering flurry of Yellow, Red, Brown and any colour you want to make up Cards.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Footski January 31, 2013, 23:52:37
Okay.......Do you know the meaning of the terms 'Yellow card' and 'red card'?

 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward January 31, 2013, 23:59:09
I gotta feeling that a yellow card means you pushed it a bit far.  And a red card means you pushed it a bit too far. Over cooked it if you understand what I mean!
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 February 01, 2013, 10:29:58
 :P :P :P :P :P

Ah Footski and russellward do you both know the meaning of a BROWN CARD. ?

 :P :P :P :P :P
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward February 01, 2013, 11:19:25
I thought it was awarded to the originator of an item of <stow high in transit> in its purest sense of application!
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Footski February 01, 2013, 12:27:59
....or is it for someone who slips in the dark smelly stuff?? :P :P :P
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 February 01, 2013, 14:15:07
 ho ho ho

 I am blown over with the answer's you are both correct, have a tot on me lad's enjoy.

 ho ho ho
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward February 01, 2013, 15:31:47
Sun's over the yardarm (somewhere in the world) so I just might!
Actually the old man built a mast about 6" high with a yard arm, so the grog intake was always legal!
Well as long as there was some sun.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 February 02, 2013, 12:24:33
 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

My sun never went over the yard arm it FELL down drunk.

 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward February 02, 2013, 13:03:07
Mind you, if you go in enough nautical circles you will get dizzy and fall over anyway.
That's why they never used coracles to navigate across oceans!
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward February 05, 2013, 02:09:30
OK what is "Blowing the Grampus".
Brown card please Admirable Footski, for anyone googling it.
Exemption from three yellow cards (ie allowed three nauti jokes or sins) for the funniest, most original ,but wrong explanation.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 February 05, 2013, 02:59:07
 :P :P :P :P :P

Blowing The Grampus = To wake a sailor up after he's fallen asleep while he is on watch. ?

And No I did not goggle it.

 :P :P :P :P :P
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward February 05, 2013, 10:04:24
Give the man a cigar and a scotch.
Makes it look too easy: You've obviously had to douse a few grampi in your time.
Your turn, brother!
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man February 06, 2013, 04:23:14
Do you "southies" know the meaning of SWMBO?
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 February 06, 2013, 06:17:54
 :P :P :P :P :P

SWMBO = SHE WHO MUST BE OBOYED

 :P :P :P :P :P
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward February 06, 2013, 09:03:58
She who must be obeyed rose again to public attention when used in quaking tones by the sonorous Horace Rumpole in "Rumpole of the Bailey" when mentioning his harridan of a wife.
Its first reference that I am aware of was in the book "She" by Rider Haggard. It is a ripping yarn of traditional explorerers in Africa in the late 1800s and I commend it to you. Basically, a remote tribe is ruled by Ayesa a gorgeous blonde bit of the old howsyerfather (how am I doing for a card? I'll take any colour). They are a wealthy lot because of the gold that they mine.
Ayesha had lived for a thousand plus years (after allowing a holy flame in the depths of her palace to play over her body). Her subjects called her She Who Must Be Obeyed under fear of death. Her rule was hardly democratic and Attilla the Hun was a little left wing in comparison.
Bit like your other half, Don?
SWMBO fell in love with the grecian adonis hero of the story and it all went a bit pear shaped from there.
OK here is one for Do you know the meaning of the strange expression Pear Shaped?
What on earth is the origin of the term? I wondered if it is a trifle (LOL) gay in origin.
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Model Tug Man February 06, 2013, 10:34:47
Oh, you'll get a card for that one for sure.

Pear shaped is a Brit term (I believe anyway) meaning out of round, no longer symetrical and even, out of ballance, etc...

SWMBO is always a good one. My better half says "don't forget it"!!!!!!!!!
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: donald.waller1 February 06, 2013, 11:09:12
 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

I thought it's what my wife's BUTT looked like when she bend's over. lol

 >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: Footski February 06, 2013, 11:44:02
Yellow cards issued to Senor Russell and Donald... >:D >:D
: Re: Do you know the Meaning ?
: russellward February 06, 2013, 13:09:14
Yellow cards issued to Senor Russell and Donald... >:D >:D
Got one at last! The whirrled loves a trier.
Relieved that the pear shaped one can be used OK without clearing the room.
That's a typically erudite Pom expression.
I got the steamboat trailer inspected today and one of the tyres was distinctly pear shaped!