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Specialist Types Of Tug Boat => Steam Tugs => : model tugman June 14, 2014, 09:56:13

: Empire Margaret/Sun XVII
: model tugman June 14, 2014, 09:56:13
 ^-^ Another new build, this time it is the Sun XVII ex Empire Margaret,  building at 1/32nd scale plank on frame her and the Sun XVI ex Empire Leonard, and Cervia  Ex Empire Raymond were sister boats built in 1945, unfortunately the Cervia is the only one of the Foremost class left afloat. 
The frames were cut out of 9mm ply as was the keel and they were then assembled on to a building board upside down and the planking applied using 2mm x10mm lime wood strips, once the planking was applied the hull was given a light coat of car body filler and rubbed down, this filled any gaps that there may have been between the planks, the hull was then removed from the building board and the inside coated with two coats of fibre glass resin, and the frame upstands cut off.
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 09:57:27
Next batch of pics ;)
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 09:59:02
The planking continues :)
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 10:00:55
Oh some pics of the real thing  angel angel
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 10:04:01
To continue the hull now planked and off the board with the shaft and motor fitted and lined up
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 10:06:28
A start was now made on the superstructure and funnel, and the deck was fitted
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 10:07:55
more pics of the superstructure
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 10:09:26
Now with the funnel made from 2 layers of 1/32nd ply
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 10:11:09
Starting on the deck
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 10:14:45
Now plating the hull with 100gsm paper and PVA glue  and wth the rudder made ,the rudder is not to scale but made to give the model more manoeuvrability.
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: model tugman June 14, 2014, 10:16:37
Last three for now  hull undercoated and the superstructure undercoated as well
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: des June 14, 2014, 14:48:29
There was a steam tug of roughly 1940's vintage, working at Port Adelaide (Australia) for many years, named Foremost and operated by Ritch and Smith Pty Ltd (part of the Adelaide Steamship group).  Could this be one of this "class" of boats?  My memory gets a bit vague stretching back that far, but from my recollection she looked similar to the photos in your post - but then, I guess most British-built steam tugs of that era would all look similar at a casual glance.

Des.
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: model tugman June 15, 2014, 03:37:26
Hello Des the only Empire tugs that I can find that were sold to Australian interests were....

Empire WINNIE,  Englishman Class sold to Adelaide steamship co as the Zealandia in 1951 and scrapped at Bunbury W A in 1974.

Empire NAN.  Modified Warrior class  sold to Adelaide Steamship Co in 1955 and named WILGA sold on to Singapore interests in 1975 .

Empire PEGGY.  Mod Warrior Class sold to William & Co Pty Aust in 1949 and named Coringa 1961 to Queensland tug Co.

Empire MINOTAUR. Foremost class. sold to Townsville Harbour Board

Empire BEN. sold to Melbourne Harbour Trust

and the only others that went Down Under were  Empire JANE and Empire SHIRLEY both went to New Zealand.

so it is quite possible that the one you remember was built for the Adelaide Steamship co in the UK just before the the second W W

all the best   Geo.  Just found this video on you tube about Adelaide harbour and  it has shots of the FOREMOST in it about half way through she looks to be a big old girl.

link to video   http://youtu.be/G5oxgNuMAnI

A bit more info on the Foremost she was built in the Uk   by Earls & co in 1926 
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: model tugman June 17, 2014, 05:40:47
Well I have got a little more done, the hull is now in gloss the first coat anyway,E R top nearly finished and the wheelhouse is fitted out and the windows and frames fitted.   But yet to be varnished and the handrails are all made ,just need fettling and painting
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: model tugman June 17, 2014, 05:42:14
some more pictures of progress so far
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: model tugman June 19, 2014, 10:33:52
 ^-^ A little more done on the build.  masts and stove pipe made, boats covered and the flying bridge fitted out
Having trouble with the site at the moment  more pics later
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: model tugman June 19, 2014, 10:42:34
Seems to be working now
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: model tugman June 23, 2014, 07:05:26
I have been playing with the rigging,  blimey there is more string on this than on a sticks and stringy sort of boat, Over 8 hours work just doing the rigging.
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: model tugman June 23, 2014, 07:07:01
A couple more :)
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: sea monkey June 25, 2014, 16:13:41
Another beauty, George. What's next?
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: model tugman June 26, 2014, 00:30:24
 ^-^  Sea Monkey, thanks for the post, but I think once this one is done,it may be time for a little relaxation I have been building constantly for the last 3 years or so, and S W M B O retires at the end of August   ??? ???so a couple of holidays are on the cards me thinks.
I have ideas for a couple more for later on another old Sun tug  she was just called SUN and possibly the Sun II as she was built as a coal burner, but we shall see,  all the best  Geo
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: model tugman June 26, 2014, 05:22:36
 ^-^ I have got a little more done today, door knobs ,grab rails fitted the stove pipe and cabin vent and painted the capstan and windlass and made the steam pipe covers around the deck
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: model tugman June 26, 2014, 05:23:53
3 more pictures   ;)
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: model tugman July 11, 2014, 05:29:57
Back from holiday and into the build again, The names and white lines done and she has been in he test tank ,she take a total of 25.5 lbs to put her on her marks.

just the electrics and a few twinkie bits to do now, She may have her sea trials along with thamestug's Empire Wold yet.
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: model tugman July 11, 2014, 05:32:06
A few more pictures
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: tugboyben July 11, 2014, 09:19:56
Hi geo
Another one of your great builds when will it been going to the pond ;)
 i do like the older tug's

Jason
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: model tugman July 11, 2014, 10:26:41
 ^-^  Jason next Wednesday all being well :)
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: sea monkey July 15, 2014, 22:50:26
Lovely result George.
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: model tugman July 16, 2014, 04:53:48
 ^-^  A few pictures taken today of the sea trials of the Sun XVII and Empire Wold.
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: model tugman July 16, 2014, 04:55:22
sea trial pics.
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: model tugman July 16, 2014, 04:56:41
A couple more
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: thamestug July 16, 2014, 05:08:07
Cracking pics Geo, thanks for posting. A couple more pics for you. A great morning had by all!!!!
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: tugboyben July 16, 2014, 08:02:28
 ^-^ geo

Beautiful tug as all ways great picture's thanks for posting them  :) :) :)

Jason
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: Model Tug Man July 17, 2014, 09:47:45
Geo,

Once again nice work. Always enjoy reading about your builds and there is much to learn, too.

 cool
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: fastfaz October 28, 2014, 07:59:41
Hi George,
    Spotted your posts and wow! what a build. I hope I can get my Sun XX1 somewhere near your standard they are absolutely spot on and look great on the water. Keep up the good work.
     Cheers,
         Peter.
     Keep on tugging!
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: fastfaz October 28, 2014, 08:42:36
Hi again Pete,
    Sorry about the name change, don't know where I got George from. Two superb boats.
       Cheers,
           Peter.
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: model tugman October 28, 2014, 09:04:22
Hello Peter,  you had it right first time  it's George. :)
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: fastfaz October 28, 2014, 09:12:25
Hi George,
   Has to be an age thing!
        Cheers,
              Peter.
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: Toby May 11, 2018, 16:37:57
Yet another great build George.
What plans did you use?  I have some basic looking Cervia plans..... any use really for an Empire Margaret build should I decide that rather that Cervia. Just collating at the moment as working on my other boats at present.



Toby
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: model tugman May 12, 2018, 11:15:30
The plans of Cervia are exactly what you want to build the XXVI or XXVII, but you will need pictures of them as well ,to see the differences in fitting out ,and colours etc.  Geo.
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: Toby May 12, 2018, 13:24:23
Thanks George.
I downloaded your photos  of the real tug as a start.
I will now scower books and internet in anticipation.
Later i will have to save your build photos.

I presume you meant xvi and xvi.

Regards,

Toby

Ps
Is Chantry sailing season up and running.
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: tassie48 May 12, 2018, 16:52:04
Great photos like the gun tubs such a good looking tug must have been great to sail on them real work boats thank you for sharing the photos tassie48
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: model tugman May 12, 2018, 23:23:13
Thanks George.
I downloaded your photos  of the real tug as a start.
I will now scower books and internet in anticipation.
Later i will have to save your build photos.

I presume you meant xvi and xvi.

Regards,

Toby


Yes still in holiday mode, just got back again.

Ps
Is Chantry sailing season up and running.