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Specialist Types Of Tug Boat => Classic Diesel Tugs => : tug-arlyn-nelson January 11, 2015, 18:33:48

: DUMAS Carol Moran kit in the building process.
: tug-arlyn-nelson January 11, 2015, 18:33:48
Started working on this about the time the site went down. Model is more or less done, getting into the electrics now and blind as a bat, first timer with RC!  Doug at Dumas has been helpful to me and I will be talking to him again. I did it up in Western Towboat (Seattle, WA) colors and not Moran, made a few changes along the way like adding a tow winch, omitted a couple things etc. She looks a bit like a tug WTB used to own called the Ocean Mariner, an ex-YTB, on which I made many trips to Alaska and as far south as San Diego. I have been taking pix along the way and will share them here when the site is all working again.
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: mike_victoriabc January 11, 2015, 18:40:42
Perhaps post the photos on the RC Groups site - I find it easier, just post the link to them there. Also catches another group of builders there.
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: 2tugboats January 11, 2015, 22:55:40
Sounds like you have lots of tugboat hours at sea. I am going to try to post a picture
of the "Ocean Mariner" build in Seattle. I don't know if it is the one you sailed on but
I need to see if I can upload it alright. I used this picture  taken by Russell Shrewsbury
which is on the www.tugboatinformation.com site. Here goes. . .

(http://www.tugboatinformation.com/pictures/thumbs/thumbTug%20Ocean%20Mariner%20(Russell%20Shrewsbury).jpg)

Looking forward to seeing your photos,
Michael in Anacortes, Washington
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: meechingman January 12, 2015, 00:48:40
More likely to be this one perhaps? :

http://www.tugboatinformation.com/tug.cfm?id=4543 (http://www.tugboatinformation.com/tug.cfm?id=4543)
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: 2tugboats January 12, 2015, 08:14:33
Looks good Meechingman. I'll see if it uploads alright. The photo credit, from the tugboatinformation.com site, is Dave Miner.

(http://www.tugboatinformation.com/pictures/thumbs/thumbTug%20Ocean%20Mariner%20(1945)(Dave%20Miner).jpg)

Looks good on this end,
Michael
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 12, 2015, 12:28:42
I sailed on both those boats at times.  I was Mate on a lumber barge run on the coast for a time with the newer version. The older one, the YTB was the first boat of theirs I worked on in 1981. We went up to the Bering Sea on it with a load of stuff for a little town called Kipnuk. Got in a hellish blow off the coast up there and the little river tug who was supposed to take the barge off of us to take it upriver came out against our Capt's advice as it was quite rough and blowing over 60. Well they decided to come out anyway and sunk with the loss of 4 guys if I recall. We had to run up to Nunivak Island and layed there for about 3 days until the storm blew over. Then the Husky II pilot boat came out and took the barge and we ran home light. We were 34 days on that trip, so I got to know that boat pretty well.  Oh and BTW, I went and dragged out my pix and that pic of the older boat that gives photo credit to Dave Miner who worked there at that time is actually a picture I took. WTB had all their boats involved in the putting in place the new Hood Canal bridge and on the way up or back, me and the owner skipper, Bob Shrewsbury Jr, got in the Zodiac and ran around taking pix of the fleet underway. Much fun! I have tried several times to contact that tug site but always get back an undeliverable message. There is several things they have wrong or incomplete on there.
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: fastfaz January 13, 2015, 00:39:52
Hi Guys,
    It must have been great to work on these boats tugs have always fascinated me. My pal used to work for the Rea towing company on the river Mersey in the sixties on the "Rosegarth" a model of which I will be building later in the year (that's if I ever get the Sun XX1 and the Tid finished, seems to be taking forever). Love th stories and the pic's keep them coming.
      Cheers,
          Peter. :)
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 13, 2015, 16:34:35
Rosegarth looks a bit like the Furie which I was getting close to ordering but am now leaning towards the Assurance Class Rescue Tug from Slipway.

Working on tugs is like most things, it always looks great from the beach, or the other side of the fence if you will. Its lots of boredom, menial tasks and labor, lack of sleep, gone from home a lot, punctuated with moments of sheer terror. But of course there is fun times too.  When you get a group of guys on the boat that get along, its great, but nothing worse than being on a boat where nobody likes anybody else, its just miserable.
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: fastfaz January 14, 2015, 07:20:19
 Hi again,
      Sounds a bit like being an Airborne soldier and brings back memories of my time in The Paras, happy days and all part of the job.
       Cheers,
              Peter. :)
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 14, 2015, 14:12:35
Hi again,
      Sounds a bit like being an Airborne soldier and brings back memories of my time in The Paras, happy days and all part of the job.
       Cheers,
              Peter. :)

Nothing as harrowing as that I am sure!
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 23, 2015, 08:28:52
The boat is almost complete, just doing a few finishing touches. Had it wet in the tub, for ballasting and operations check. It floats and it works. Hope to put it in bigger water soon and will post some pics of the build and trials when and if the site starts working again.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 25, 2015, 15:48:58
Had it in the water twice now, looks good underway. Speedy like most of these models but looks right scale wise as to wake, etc. A little drip from the stuffing box (grease tube), not much.  Have some video of it and some stills. Having trouble getting my vids to upload at Photobucket for some reason, only got one to load there and its not worth putting up here, even if I could figure out how!  Hopefully when everything gets ironed out I can get some pics here of it. It was a fun build and it looks good.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 26, 2015, 19:46:24
http://vid1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/MVI_1095_1.mp4

Here then is a quick vid of it in the water underway.  Took some time to get it uploaded to Photobucket.  Its short only 33 secs but if you set your player to slow, it lasts a little longer and looks a bit more realistic.  I hope it posts OK.  When they get the pic thing figured out here I can post build pix if anyone wants to see them.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 26, 2015, 19:54:40
http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/IMG_1087.jpg

Here is a nice still of her at rest.
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: 2tugboats January 26, 2015, 20:37:03
Here is your picture of her at rest.

(http://i1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/IMG_1087.jpg)
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 26, 2015, 22:07:03
http://vid1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/MVI_1095.mp4

re linking the video, I screwed up.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 26, 2015, 22:09:51
Here is another one.

http://vid1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/MVI_1094.mp4
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 29, 2015, 09:39:53
Pic test

If it works, this is the hull going together.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 29, 2015, 10:52:50
A few more of the Dumas tug build.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 29, 2015, 11:28:32
3 more build pics.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 29, 2015, 11:34:52
3 more.  Winch was not part of kit, only bits supplied.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 30, 2015, 08:22:24
Someone let me know if they want to see this build or there is not much point in me posting more pix for me to look at.
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: Sudbury II January 30, 2015, 08:41:03
Absolutely!!!!
Keep the pics and info coming.
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: Sudbury II January 30, 2015, 08:41:51
Oh...and I love the Western Towboat colors :)
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 30, 2015, 08:46:43
Thanks suds, I will get some more up soon.  Were you able to view the vids I posted?
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: Sudbury II January 30, 2015, 08:49:05
No...the vids showed up as "Removed"
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 30, 2015, 09:40:07
On page two they are both still there. I fouled up the first attempt on page 1. I just checked.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 30, 2015, 10:52:30
A few more.  It should be obvious that soldering is not my strong suit!  First time ever soldering something like this. I seemed to get progressively worse as I went along. LOL!  Try to do better on the next build.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 30, 2015, 13:05:10
Added a bangpipe, aft steering station and a deck box up top instead of on the main deck per the plans.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 30, 2015, 20:30:11
See the little motor in there and my bow "pud", a pc of fuel line cut in half!
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: tug-arlyn-nelson January 30, 2015, 20:37:31
Bit of stern deck detail, fore deck detail and stern rubber.  I used some un needed oil filter canister gasket for that. Cut them in half and glued them on. Hokey but it does offer a bit of protection for the stern.

That's about it, been done for a bit. Would have loaded the pix during the build but that didn't work out. Its been in the water and runs great, I hope the vids I posted work for you. The first one wont but on page two at the top is 2 Photobucket vids that work.

Be happy to hear comments or answer any queries.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson February 13, 2015, 14:08:29
Here is a barge I made to put behind this boat. All plywood, painted with poly resin and paint.  Built to scale more or less, would be around 290', about right for a 105' tug.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson February 14, 2015, 13:02:20
Put the barge in the water today and towed it around, behind and alongside. Lots of fun!  I took lots of video too and if I can get any to upload to the bucket I will post them here.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson February 14, 2015, 13:09:06
couple more tried to load but are now failing the dreaded security check and they are all sized down same as the others.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson February 14, 2015, 16:23:04
http://vid1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/MVI_1178.mp4

Here is a vid hopefully of todays excursions into mini tugboating.
http://vid1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/MVI_1183.mp4

http://vid1261.photobucket.com/albums/ii596/Scott3840/MVI_1169.mp4

Hope you can see them! Someone let me know if they are working. They should open immediately and start playing.
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: Calimero February 14, 2015, 16:43:30
Vids work for me !
Nice tug and barge. Just add 40-50lb of ballast to the barge and you're done!

I'm currently building a barge too, mostly for my springer tug. 120cm*40cm (47"*16"). Was laying up some glass fiber just 2hrs ago.  I have four 10lb lead ingot to get it down.
I'll rig the barge with a very simple sheerlegs crane for an event next August where a bunch of 'Crazy Tuggers' will meet. Challenge is to maneuver the barge with two tugs and bring the load to the right spot. Should be a bit more interesting than just sailing around.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson February 14, 2015, 16:59:47
Glad to hear its working.  With this little boat and being all stock running gear, ie, small 1 inch plastic prop, I am afraid if I load that barge it will be like towing logs, very slow!  Right now it tows along about scale speed and looks pretty good. I wish I could load some of the better vids to the bucket but anything over about 40 secs or so wont load. Oh well.  Thanks!!
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: Calimero February 14, 2015, 18:26:56
That's when the fun starts: more inertia. Models behave closer to the real deal.

I've had a lot of fun towing a 300kg model with my 4kg springer. Took 3 or 4 seconds to  start turning even with the tow line at 90 which is much more realistic and challenging.

Regarding the videos: YouTube works great.
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: tbone February 14, 2015, 19:33:26
What are the dimensions of the barge?  Does it have frames inside or is it just a big box?

I agree that some more weight would help the barge and make it more challenging to maneuver. Maybe you can use water bottles so it will still be light to transport.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson February 14, 2015, 20:47:36
Barge is 48 inches by 12 inches wide.  No frames, just a box.  Half inch ply, resin and paint, a few nails and glue.  I should make up a bunch of containers for it, stack them 4 and 5 high like we used to do for the Bristol Bay and Nome trips!  Oh those were the days!

Next time out I will put a box of rocks on deck or something, call it a rock barge.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson February 14, 2015, 21:07:46
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOnut3MaEyU&feature=youtu.be

Let me know how this works guys.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson March 13, 2015, 17:13:16
Put a new prop on this today, from Dumas. Same diameter, 1 inch, but 3 blade brass instead of 2 blade plastic. I was curious if it would make any difference in speed, thrust or towing. Well, all three.  Not a huge difference but noticeable.  Sure is a good looking little boat.  I will link to some fresh vids later.

Oh and check out the new rubber!
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: tug-arlyn-nelson March 13, 2015, 22:04:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sznCkBErRw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mrc2e-gL4k

Pardon the occasionally shaky video as I am both running the boat and the camera!
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: Tiny69 March 13, 2015, 23:49:03
Sails much better with the brass prop fitted.

Tiny
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: adam_goodin March 16, 2015, 15:47:52
Always liked these boats. Great model and the colour scheme is very nice.
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: tug-arlyn-nelson March 16, 2015, 17:14:47
The colors are of Western Towboat Co in Seattle Washington, where I worked for a number of years.
Thanks!!
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: adam_goodin March 18, 2015, 17:02:27
Ah, I did wonder if it was based on a real colour scheme. Thank you for that.
 I'm almost tempted to get one of the Dumas kits myself!
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: tug-arlyn-nelson March 18, 2015, 19:04:29
It was a fun build, my first foray into RC boats.  I have been enjoying it in the water and filming it. Almost as much fun watching the vids as it is running it.
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: CAJ April 26, 2016, 05:47:20
A nice build, lovely looking tug. Thanks for sharing.

I am considering this model once I finish a Mount Fleet Lowgarth