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Author Topic: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale  (Read 3529 times)

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ZA Boater

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Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« on: February 26, 2013, 11:22:03 »
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I recently aquired a 1:50 scale Zwarte Zee Tug! :)
I guess she was built in the late 60's to early 70's!
She is fitted with a Taplin 8cc twin diesel marine motor running through a reduction box.
At the end of the drive she's got a 95mm four blade prop, all to scale!
As part of restoring her I have decided to remove the diesel motor and fit an electric motor, dont want all the vibration and noise in the old hull.
Looking to fit a new reduction box and brushless motor, but not sure of what to use. ???
So any advice, critisism, and information will be greatly apreciated!
A bad day at the dam beats a good day at work!

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 14:01:41 »
Hello ZA Boater,

I want to thank you for posting pictures of your Zwarte Zee Tug". I rarely use the term
"Luscious" when referring to tugboats but, oh my, what a Luscious Lined ocean going
tugboat. I can't wait to show my friends here your pictures. Thank you.

Be sure to send pictures of your re-powering this fine tug indeed.

Welcome to the Tug Forum ZZ Boater and welcome aboard,
Michael in Anacortes, Washington
Yet another case of why men and women go down to the sea in ships. . .A pleasure to be here and smell the salt air. Thank you Tugboat Forum. . .Michael in Anacortes, Washington www.twotugboats.com

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2013, 15:26:47 »
A very nice model. Have never seen a scale boat with an internal combustion engine before. Certainly not a diesel.

I have three tugs, 42", 54" and 5'. all have direct drive electric pitman motors. I usually don't run them at more that 50% throttle, however, full speed has been used a couple of times when problems were occurring--a sudden hail storm and a gas hydro out of control. Just a thought.

Do you intend to use her for towing?
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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2013, 02:20:02 »
I'd be inclined to keep the deisel engine. It's an unusual system and in keeping with the original model.
But, then I'm a traditionalist.

ZA Boater

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2013, 06:04:35 »
Hi Guys!

Thanks for all the kind words! :)
I'm pretty new to the scale boat scene, been racing 26cc and up RC Offshore boats and F1 boats for a while but got tired of going home with prop rash all over my hulls from race rage!  :'(

So I met up with a couple of guys and got into the scale boats, much more relaxing and you go home with a boat in one piece!  :)
So I have no idea what towing is about! ???
I assume it is when you tow a scale model behind your tug, or having a competitive nature I could imagine its to see who can tow the largest weight! LOL!

The reason for changing the diesel to electric is all practical.
I'd love to run her as is but when taking the age of the hull into concederation the integrity might be compromised by the heat and vibration. That is why I want to go electric. Also the model IC motors are so temperamental that it will take you a while to get it to run smoothly :( So while your buddies are on the pond, you'll be working hard on the bank trying to start the motor.
You also get a much smoother throttle curve with the electric motors so running at scale speed is easier.

So my plan is to run an electric drive, add a smoker and a sound unit to finish her off!
She is already fully rigged with lights :)

I got the diesel motor to turn last night! Super happy!
It was solid with fossilized Castor oil! :(
Guess it was standing for at least 40 years to get that stuck! :o
Removed the entire drive system in one piece! So it's going to be easy to swap back to diesel if need be!  :)
A bad day at the dam beats a good day at work!

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2013, 07:31:59 »
Some pics! :)
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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2013, 07:34:26 »
and more! :o
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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2013, 10:01:59 »
I must disagree with my fellow Kiwi, Sea Monkey, It is a fabulous looking model and it deserves a great engine but personally the thought of an i.c engine, albeit a diesel of not , this is too good a model for one.

Too many models are overpowered for scale like appearance and it would seem a handful to tame that beast with a twin.

Sea Monkey. Just look what happened to the Toia and its diesel...crashed into the Queen.

ZA boater. You could try those big T engines from MMB in the UK. They have some power but also being multipole the Zwartee will be a pussy cat to control.

You know the place for those noisy IC motors. At the bottom of the lake along with the jet skis!

Lovely model.

VANYA

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2013, 15:07:16 »
Very nice, just as a matter of interest you might like to have a look at this Dutch site, also about a 1:50 Z Z. Favorite motors for a tug that size used to be a couple of Smiths heater fan motors, (Warning the MG B guys to keep an eye on their cars !!!), but no doubt much better selection now.
All the best with a great model.

http://www.hoppenbrouwer-home.nl/ikarus/mijnmodellen/zz.htm

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2013, 19:29:16 »
That is one nice model.
regards John
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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 09:23:47 »
Great Zwarte Zee IV!
Nice work!

I have build her a few months ago.



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The Witte Zee III, also in 1:50



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Hope you like it,


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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2013, 15:52:50 »
Mighty nice looking build.
Welcome aboard Jan.
 
What did you use for running gear and electrics?
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ZA Boater

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2013, 16:06:02 »
Hi Jan

She's beautiful! :)
What motor and speed control are you running?
Should be the same size prop as my Tug!
Did you build her from a kit?
I've not found any information on my tug and would like find more about the model.
A bad day at the dam beats a good day at work!

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2013, 17:23:38 »
Thank you Tug53!

The Witte Zee, doesn't run on petrol, bus an electo motor.
12 Volt Buhler motor.

Hello ZA Boater, thanks for reply!

The Witte Zee isn't ofcourse a kit, all homebuild.
The size of the screw is 7 cm.

Sorry for my bad English, but I hope you can understand.

For more information, look at the page where you can see how I have build my Witte Zee:
http://www.modelbouwforum.nl/forums/bouwverslagen-schepen/170022-bouwverslag-witte-zee-iii-1-50-a.html


Jan
 

ZA Boater

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2013, 17:39:55 »
Hi Jan

I just had a quick look at your build thread!
Wow, you did some amazing work with the details!
I see you used a brushed electric motor  in your model
I'll read a bit later when I have more time
Thanks for sharing the build thread  :)
A bad day at the dam beats a good day at work!

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Re: Zwarte Zee 1:50 scale
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