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dylan1966

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Zooduchus Pigi
« on: September 11, 2017, 11:04:21 »
Toby kindly wrote previously this tug was sunk in 1942.
I believe it was in German hands from April 1941

Would that mean the allies sunk it as the Axis were using it in 1942?
My dad was registered on his service record as March 41-Aug 41 which was not possible.

I assume the Royal Navy used Greek tugs to help the war effort and that's how my dad was posted to it. Probably to take troops to mainland Greece.
Any thoughts would be gratefully received
Thankyou

Toby

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Re: Zooduchus Pigi
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2017, 09:12:03 »
PIGHI!

I cannot just recall that I stated previously but see attached.

Have you contacted or visited either the IWM or RMG?

Toby


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Re: Zooduchus Pigi
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2017, 10:45:00 »
Toby, was it in enemy hands then ?
I believe it was.

Haven't found anything at IWM
I'll keep trying to piece it together.

Bob,

I don't think I am going to be of much help to you.  Some of the 'facts' appear to be contradictory and others are definitely questionable.  That leaves the guess, the whole guess and nothing but the guess.  From what little we have to go on at the moment, I can envisage the following scenario - but it is only  a possibility - by no means anywhere near certain without further input:

1    On 22 Mar 41 your father had served 43 days of his 90 Detention (at some point later commuted to 60).

2    On 23 Mar 41 he appears to have been drafted to Zoodochus Pigi.

3    At this time Piraeus Docks were busily engaged in disembarking back-up troops and equipment to reinforce the support the Allied Divisions were offering the Greek Army facing the Yugoslav border where a German advance was most likely.  Efficient tug work would have been essential in the docks and larger harbour area.  The Navy may or may not have taken over Greek tugs.  They would have needed manning - particularly by deck-hands with general skills, nothing too specialised.

4    Rather than have a man languishing unproductively in DQs ashore, the Navy might well have been prepared to offer your father the choice of completing his sentence or joining Zoodochus.  Alternatively they might not have offered him the choice - and just drafted him regardless.  Whichever way he appears to have joined her forthwith (but it would have taken a few days in practice to get him from Jerusalem to Piraeus).

5    He obviously didn't serve on her till 11 Aug 41 if she was sunk on 17 April.  That statement is definitely in error.  But what did happen to him after the (assumed) sinking?  I am interested by the Pierre Kosmidis statement "The “Zoodochos Pigi” was sunk in Mikrolimano, next to the main port of Piraeus by a Luftwaffe air attack, on 17 April 1941 and Bill managed to survive and escape imprisonment, after the fall of Greece to the Germans."  The fall of Athens did not take place (officially, at least) until 27th April.  Kosmidis implies that Bill was hiding somewhere in Athens and/or Piraeus.  Was he also hiding from the Navy - having been sunk yet again?  Or does the Kosmidis "escape imprisonment" mean by the Germans as a Prisoner of War?   Where did Kosmidis get the information on which to base his statement?

6    Whatever happened after the sinking of Zoodochus Pigi, he seems to have been transported back to Egypt (quite possibly on one of the RN evacuating vessels) where he was eventually redrafted to HMS Medway, the Alexandria based Submarine Depot Ship, from 26 May to 11 June.


As I say - this is only one possible scenario.  Maybe like the curate's egg - its only good in parts!  Please let me know if/and/or when you find out more.

Sorry can't be more helpful or enlightening!
Cheers, Noah


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Re: Zooduchus Pigi
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2017, 11:57:12 »
Very interesting thought process on the matter!

Toby


I shall be interested in the outcome of they be one eventually.

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Re: Zooduchus Pigi
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2017, 12:41:57 »
Thankyou Toby,

I'll post anything new I find